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Postby Trent Steele » Thu Jun 05, 2014 09:36:42

I'm speaking of the organization as a whole, but even without the trades, it's still horrible.

Right now the Phillies remind me so much of the White Sox of the last few years. Aging core, no minor league system, long-time doofus GM that had some success and (unlike Rube) managed to win a WS. One really good SP in his prime. Toolshed draft strategy that doesn't work. And most importantly, no plan.

Last year, the White Sox hired Rick Hahn and he's done a great job of starting the turnaround of the org. Signing Abreu, trading an overrated closer for Adam Eaton, acquiring Avisail Garcia, maybe acquiring their future 3B (Matt Davidson). They have a way to go, but they are building a core. That needs to happen now here. These fuckheads dont have a plan.
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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby pacino » Thu Jun 05, 2014 09:42:34

CalvinBall wrote:
td11 wrote:2012 got us cozens and cam perkins, give em some time yet bubba


watson and gueller too. give em some time.

Perk is really producing. We'll see what he does
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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jun 05, 2014 09:50:38

pacino wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Take a look back at the older draft topics and have some laughs and cries (mostly cries)

Hey guys, remember when we drafted a powerhitting corner OF who can't field his position who posted a sub-.600 OPS over 500+ PAs in the Sally League? Good times!

:dh:

609 OPS, don't short it

That was last season. You're ignoring his stellar .478 OPS over 54 AB this season before getting hurt.

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby BigEd76 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 14:57:53

Two years later and we're still joking about this kid:

BigEd76 wrote:Dylan Cozens, Chaparral HS (AZ) OF, 6'6" lefty, Arizona commit, also plays defensive end


Trent Steele wrote:
You might remember Cozens. He was the kid who transferred to Scottsdale Chaparral after being kicked off the Scottsdale Desert Mountain baseball team for disciplinary reasons.


joe table wrote:Excited to see what Washburn can do with this guy


LastTrain wrote:
Cozens actually got in a fight with a coach and teammates which got him kicked off the team. A kid got off a bucket during a game, called spits, and then Cozens took the seat, but when the kid returned, he kindly asked Cozens for the seat back. Cozens got extremely upset and went after the kid who called spits but a coach interfered and Cozens punched the coach.


Soren wrote:I really want Cozens to be good, almost as much as I want Larry Greene to be good.

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Grotewold » Thu Jun 05, 2014 14:59:49

joe table wrote:Excited to see what Washburn can do with this guy


:-D

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Soren » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:00:56

BigEd76 wrote:
Soren wrote:I really want Cozens to be good, almost as much as I want Larry Greene to be good.


batting .500 is ok
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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby phillies » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:16:33

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby jamiethekiller » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:26:34

TBF a numbef of those teams stink and ahve high draft picks which cost a lot more

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby bleh » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:28:03

we're ranked #1 in good graces with the commissioner for not going over slot.

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby BigEd76 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:28:47

Yep. A third of that Nats total is tied up in Strasburg, Harper, Storen, Rendon and Giolito

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:30:07

Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing, Washington's number is skewed from the Harper/Strasburg picks and Pit and Kc have what, one playoff appearance between them in that span? I mean, it's inexcusable for the phillies to be at the bottom, but spending a lot isn't some guarantee of success either.
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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby td11 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:31:33

BigEd76 wrote:Yep. A third of that Nats total is tied up in Strasburg, Harper, Storen, Rendon and Giolito


that's enough to pay for like, 1.2 years of Ryan Howard's contract
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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Jun 05, 2014 15:32:27

Boston and Tampa are the only teams on that list spending over $6m/yr who have been any good
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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Woody » Thu Jun 05, 2014 16:00:38

phillies wrote:Image


Infographic: "The draft is the worst investment"
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby bleh » Thu Jun 05, 2014 16:10:07

subtitle "Self-fulfilling prophecy"

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Jun 05, 2014 16:12:13

At least the slotting system rendered this irrelevant.

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby dajafi » Thu Jun 05, 2014 17:00:34

There's no straight line correlation between that spending and the success of farm systems, e.g. the Braves (and Cleveland/San Diego haven't exactly cranked out a line of young stars). But when you're something like a third below the average, that's a bad sign. And if you added in international spending pre the MAG fiasco, it'd be no better.

They do everything badly.

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby nycphils » Thu Jun 05, 2014 18:26:21

dajafi wrote:There's no straight line correlation between that spending and the success of farm systems, e.g. the Braves (and Cleveland/San Diego haven't exactly cranked out a line of young stars). But when you're something like a third below the average, that's a bad sign. And if you added in international spending pre the MAG fiasco, it'd be no better.

They do everything badly.


Did we even spend our whole international allotment last year?

What I wouldn't give to have the baseball equivalent of the Sixers owners and Sam Hinke for the Phillies.

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Thu Jun 05, 2014 19:01:23

jamiethekiller wrote:TBF a numbef of those teams stink and ahve high draft picks which cost a lot more


And we gave up a first rounders for Jon Lieber, Raulll, Cliff and Pap (when we wouldn't have had to surrender if Rube waited a little longer).

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Re: 2014 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby BigEd76 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 19:28:18

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