5th Round Pick wrote:Yep. Being reported Cole Melman Hamels to skip his next start. Didn't he do this to us the end of the 2009 season? I think he's fine and he's just catching a little rest with a 9 game lead. I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Have any of the beat writers said anything about this today on Twitter - the skipped start, not the MRI - or are they all passed out drunk in an alley?

No Twitters. For what its worth I just heard it on the 15 minute update on WIP while driving.

at least this is kindricks 9th and final life

Cole's GB/FB is 1.65 this year. His average is 1.13. God damn.

JUburton wrote:Cole's GB/FB is 1.65 this year. His average is 1.13. God damn.

I really should know this, but does a cutter dive at all? Keeping his FB lower may help insulate against when he elevates a dead fish.

Bucky wrote:

JUburton wrote:Cole's GB/FB is 1.65 this year. His average is 1.13. God damn.

I really should know this, but does a cutter dive at all? Keeping his FB lower may help insulate against when he elevates a dead fish.

The theory is the late movement keeps a hitter from squaring it up, so instead of making good contact it's "in on the hands" to use a wheelsism. To wit, his cutter generates GBs at a 63.5% clip against RHB, which is sort of the point of throwing it as a LHP right?

Yup, I'm pretty sure that's why he developed it, and it's why he's a pretty elite pitcher now. He has dropped about a K/9 from last year to only 8.1, only down about 0.4 from his average. But, his walks are also down 0.8 from last year and 0.4 from his average as well. That offset coupled with his huge rise in GBs has made him a monster.

He's at 8.1 k/9, 1.8 bb/9, 52.7% GB, 6.7% HR/FB.

For example Doc is 8.4, 1.1, 52.0%, 5.8%. He's just ridiculous.

Bucky wrote:

JUburton wrote:Cole's GB/FB is 1.65 this year. His average is 1.13. God damn.

I really should know this, but does a cutter dive at all? Keeping his FB lower may help insulate against when he elevates a dead fish.

Yeah I think he throws it with a two-seam grip so that would cause a bit of sink to it. to my eye it seems to dive a bit more than, say, Roy's which just seems like it takes a left turn. i'm sure there's charts someone can pull that can confirm this, or make me look like an asshole

Woody wrote:

Bucky wrote:

JUburton wrote:Cole's GB/FB is 1.65 this year. His average is 1.13. God damn.

I really should know this, but does a cutter dive at all? Keeping his FB lower may help insulate against when he elevates a dead fish.

Yeah I think he throws it with a two-seam grip so that would cause a bit of sink to it. to my eye it seems to dive a bit more than, say, Roy's which just seems like it takes a left turn. i'm sure there's charts someone can pull that can confirm this, or make me look like an asshat

Per fangraphs:
horizontal/vertical movement on the cutter
Hamels: -0.8, 7.2
Halladay: -1.1, 5.4

Soren wrote:

Woody wrote:

Bucky wrote:

JUburton wrote:Cole's GB/FB is 1.65 this year. His average is 1.13. God damn.

I really should know this, but does a cutter dive at all? Keeping his FB lower may help insulate against when he elevates a dead fish.

Yeah I think he throws it with a two-seam grip so that would cause a bit of sink to it. to my eye it seems to dive a bit more than, say, Roy's which just seems like it takes a left turn. i'm sure there's charts someone can pull that can confirm this, or make me look like an asshat

Per fangraphs:
horizontal/vertical movement on the cutter
Hamels: -0.8, 7.2
Halladay: -1.1, 5.4

SO CUTTERED

(how do i interpret those numbers? does that mean i'm right?)

I think it means you're right but let's not rule out the asshole part

That must have been what you told that one chick

pitchFx is basically the difference between where the ball would appear to be headed versus where it winds up basically right?

Soren wrote:pitchFx is basically the difference between where the ball would appear to be headed versus where it winds up basically right?

I always guessed that it's where the pitch would end up based on initial vertical and horizontal velocity. So yeah, basically.

SO WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN. What does 7 vs. 5 (y-axis?)indicate?

Woody wrote:That must have been what you told that one chick

Dying here

Woody wrote:SO WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN. What does 7 vs. 5 (y-axis?)indicate?

Inches away from where a straight pitch would go, I'd guess.

JUburton wrote:

Woody wrote:SO WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN. What does 7 vs. 5 (y-axis?)indicate?

Inches away from where a straight pitch would go, I'd guess.

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