2011 ST Random Phillies Stuff III: The Search for Grit

by **FTN** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 22:19:55

Castillo, $400K
Ollie, $400K

World Series win.

Mets fans might seriously commit a ritualistic group suicide.

by **FTN** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 23:54:21

alright.

after looking at castillo's splits and batted ball/swing data from 2010, im on board for signing him even beyond the mets fans dying reason.

i dont think hes completely done. he had a really fluky bad 2010. I think part of it was injury related. if hes healthy now, im all in on him at $414K.

by **JFLNYC** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 23:59:24

I think the problem is that his leg injuries now appear to be chronic.

by **Barry Jive** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 00:44:42

so we're giving them both major league contracts, to take spaces on a 25-man roster, and removing whom, exactly?

signing Castillo removes either Barfield or Delwyn Young, which is fine, except that whichever of those gents gets cut lands somewhere else. And when Castillo is unplayable, which is an inevitability, your backup has to come from AAA. So you're relying on Pete Orr to log major league innings and the fallback to that is...I guess, Freddy Galvis.

signing Perez removes either Baez or Bastardo, and as much as we'd like it to be Baez, we all know it's Bastardo. If we could guarantee it'd be Baez I'd be all for it. But there are few major league teams that will carry three lefties for the sake of lefties, and the Phillies are not one of them, at least not with Charlie Manuel at the helm. To remove Bastardo for the sake of experimenting with Perez is a waste of Bastardo's potential, and chances are with his stuff he's better than Perez right now anyway.

I think if you're going one or the other you go Perez, cut Baez, and roll on. But that's an unlikely scenario anyway, and while I'd rather have Castillo while cutting either Barfield or Delwyn Young (one of them's gonna be cut anyway when Chase comes back), I don't even think it's worth a move. Who knows? Either of those guys could BABIP their way into a good season. Castillo, I don't have that faith.

And there's a small fallacy with your scenario: Yeah, if the Phils win a World Series it'd be great. But it'd be hard as hell to win a World Series while carrying either one of those deadweight pieces of baseball crap on your roster at any point in the season.

by **LongDrive** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:43:51

Where's Eric Bruntlett?

by **LongDrive** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:51:26

•GM Sandy Alderson and manager Terry Collins admitted that Mets fans' disdain for Luis Castillo factored into the team's decision to release the embattled second baseman earlier today, writes Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com. Collins implied that even if Castillo had played well, fans would have been hard on him at his first sign of struggles.

Please Rube, sign him.

by **FTN** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:13:59

Barry Jive wrote:so we're giving them both major league contracts, to take spaces on a 25-man roster, and removing whom, exactly?

signing Castillo removes either Barfield or Delwyn Young, which is fine, except that whichever of those gents gets cut lands somewhere else. And when Castillo is unplayable, which is an inevitability, your backup has to come from AAA. So you're relying on Pete Orr to log major league innings and the fallback to that is...I guess, Freddy Galvis.

signing Perez removes either Baez or Bastardo, and as much as we'd like it to be Baez, we all know it's Bastardo. If we could guarantee it'd be Baez I'd be all for it. But there are few major league teams that will carry three lefties for the sake of lefties, and the Phillies are not one of them, at least not with Charlie Manuel at the helm. To remove Bastardo for the sake of experimenting with Perez is a waste of Bastardo's potential, and chances are with his stuff he's better than Perez right now anyway.

I think if you're going one or the other you go Perez, cut Baez, and roll on. But that's an unlikely scenario anyway, and while I'd rather have Castillo while cutting either Barfield or Delwyn Young (one of them's gonna be cut anyway when Chase comes back), I don't even think it's worth a move. Who knows? Either of those guys could BABIP their way into a good season. Castillo, I don't have that faith.

And there's a small fallacy with your scenario: Yeah, if the Phils win a World Series it'd be great. But it'd be hard as hell to win a World Series while carrying either one of those deadweight pieces of baseball crap on your roster at any point in the season.

members of the 2008 WS team at some point during the year

TJ Bohn
Eric Bruntlett
Mike Cervanek
Chris Coste
Adam Eaton
So Taguchi
Brad Harman
Les Walrond
RJ Swindle

by **Barry Jive** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:30:11

I was exaggerating a bit, but how many of those guys were guaranteed an MLB contract and intended as a member of the opening day roster? Or more pertinently, how many would make the current team?

by **FTN** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:36:24

Barry Jive wrote:I was exaggerating a bit, but how many of those guys were guaranteed an MLB contract and intended as a member of the opening day roster? Or more pertinently, how many would make the current team?

there are a number of issues with this logic. i think you know them.

by **FTN** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 15:22:04

okay i dont want Ollie anymore

by **LongDrive** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:17:08

The Phillies are not high on the idea of signing Castillo to fill-in for Chase Utley at second base, writes David Murphy of the Philadelphia Daily News. Murphy gets the sense that the Phillies would be willing to take a look at him on a non-guaranteed deal, but there should be other suitors willing to give the veteran more playing time.

by **LongDrive** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:26:05

ek wrote:lidge comes back tuesday officially

Polly looking at Wednesday

by **drsmooth** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:28:08

we come all the way to clearwater with a 4 in 5 chance of seeing a 2011 starter, and who do we get?

by **WheelsFellOff** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:30:24

Shaddap and finish your Blanton

by **drsmooth** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:43:22

WheelsFellOff wrote:Shaddap and finish your Blanton

by **smitty** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:44:56

OK buddy boys. This is how it works. Three ground balls. One through the hole to LF. One through the hole to RF. One for a 6-4-3 DP.

Lookie here, that's BABIP.

And further, Wilson Valdez BABIPs an infield single in the Phillies half while Brad Lidge is with the "I'm not even hurt" sideline info.

CC vs. Big Joe -- 1-0 Yanks in the third.

by **Didn't I?** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:48:02

I was supposed to be at this game. :cry:

by **drsmooth** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 13:51:19

martinez huh

joe's been cupcake-y so far' no complaints

by **drsmooth** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 14:04:32

damnm opera browser

by **WheelsFellOff** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 14:10:47

haha J Martin tryin a leadoff bunt. Sarge's dumbfounded "Wow." summed it up nicely.

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