Random Phillies Stuff: 2011 Spring Training Edition

by **Eem** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 14:14:00

But Hamels' four-seamer has pretty significant run on it I think, meaning the cutter "cuts" relative to the fastball.

by **joe table** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 14:17:59

Yeah Cole's "straight" 4 seam had about 4 inches of fade. The cutter like you said had almost no horizontal movement but ended up about 5 inches lower than the 4-seam according to the Lefkowitz site. Righties hit HRs off the cutter at a high rate last year but overall it was arguably a tougher pitch vs RHB

Cutter vs RHB: 228 pitches, 23.4% whiffs, 49% GB - 7% LD - 44% FB
Cutter vs LHB: 66 pitches, 13.5% whiffs, 60% GB - 13% LD - 37% FB

It's definitely a weapon for him. If he and Chooch can tighten up the sequencing and figure out pitch patterns that work well vs certain types of hitters maybe he can improve, since he has just as many weapons to work with as any LHP in the NL not named CLIFF IMO

by **Eem** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 14:21:31

Also doesn't hurt that the best LH cutter artist in the sport is in the rotation with him

by **jamiethekiller** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 15:49:51

obviously its all relative to the other pitches, and i stated so.

but in the grand scheme of pitch movement; Hamel's cutter is about as straight as it gets.

super pumped for to see him pitch this year. the 4 spot is absolutely perfect for him.

by **smitty** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 16:04:48

I'd like to see the Phillies score some runs for him and Madson et., al. not blow so many leads so he wins a lot of games this year. It won't make him a better pitcher. But it would be kewl.

by **VFB** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 18:37:05

FYI lids.com added some new phillies clothes this week

by **CFP** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 18:44:24

Madson was just on DNL, sadly no questions about RedTube

by 1 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 18:45:10

nick'd

Over 70,000 #Phillies single game tickets were sold today. a franchise record. In total, over 3.3 million tickets have already been sold for the upcoming season.

that's all?!?

by **mcare89** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 18:51:54

Soren wrote:It kind of amazes me how little respect Hameles gets outside of PHILSNATION (C)2008. I'm having a conversation about him with two otherwise reasonable Yankees fans and they're talking about him like he's a mediocre starter beating up on awful teams in the NL.

I had a similar argument with a Sox fan which, after he actually looked at the numbers, culminated with "You know, I'm pretty much arguing what I wish was the case, apparently."

by **Wheels Tupay** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 18:55:30

1 wrote:nick'd

Over 70,000 #Phillies single game tickets were sold today. a franchise record. In total, over 3.3 million tickets have already been sold for the upcoming season.

that's all?!?

Also said 2.8 million were sold at this time last year. That's a big freakin difference. In conclusion, CLIFF LEE.

by **jerseyhoya** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 18:59:53

That's really an insane number. We only sold 3.647 mil last year, and that was good enough for 103.5% capacity. :shock:

by **swishnicholson** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 19:02:32

OUTSIDE PARTY ZONE!!!!

by **BigEd76** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 19:21:58

Maine picked the Rockies over the Phils

by **The Crimson Cyclone** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 19:24:20

BigEd76 wrote:Maine picked the Rockies over the Phils

tbf he has a much better chance of ever starting again there

by **Soren** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 09:54:41

mcare89 wrote:
Soren wrote:It kind of amazes me how little respect Hameles gets outside of PHILSNATION (C)2008. I'm having a conversation about him with two otherwise reasonable Yankees fans and they're talking about him like he's a mediocre starter beating up on awful teams in the NL.

I had a similar argument with a Sox fan which, after he actually looked at the numbers, culminated with "You know, I'm pretty much arguing what I wish was the case, apparently."

I kept getting the yea well he would be awful in the AL East argument despite the fact that he has better K/BB numbers than Sabathia and Lester.

by **Grotewold** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 17:05:14

Imagine if Sarge could curse on the telecast

by **Bucky** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 17:08:53

swishnicholson wrote:OUTSIDE PARTY ZONE!!!!

by 1 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 18:02:29

charlie manuel on dnl dressed like a regular dude. kind of weird.

by **Napalm** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 18:06:49

he looks good in jeans

/nohomo.

by **Wheels Tupay** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 16:23:35

ek wrote:rollins said today we'll win at least 100 games, shooting for 114

Why not 162?
/stupid Phillies fan comment

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