PTOITWCFTPP wrote:

ReadingPhilly wrote:meh, there's a lot of bad contracts in the nhl now.

Most of them reside on the Flyers roster

they have some poor ones for sure. but this is a world where clowe got 5/24 an clarkson 7/36 last offseason.

Flyers always hit on their first round pick. Problem is, the rest of their picks usually suck.

2012 looking like a huge anomaly. Laughton, Stolarz, Ghost in succession.

heyeaglefn wrote:If Homer doesn't step down after the draft then this team won't win shit until Snider dies.

Surprising they have a lot of good D.

heyeaglefn wrote:

ReadingPhilly wrote:meh, there's a lot of bad contracts in the nhl now.

The Flyers just amnestied two of the worst last year. Hartnell and Vinny have to be at the top of the list of bad contracts. Still think MacDonald is going to turn out to be a terrible contract too.

Homer is trying everything he can do to win now for Snider, but they really do need a culture change, aka, Snider gets out of the way.

Comcast has pulled the plug on Synder this year. He's just a figurehead now. Tossing Lukko was the end of Snider's reign.

Spectacor owns the Flyers. Not Comcast. Snider got rid of Lukko.

Snider is still very much a part of the Flyers.

CalvinBall wrote:Spectacor owns the Flyers. Not Comcast. Snider got rid of Lukko.

Snider is still very much a part of the Flyers.

Stop. It's called Comcast-Spectacor for a reason. Comcast is the majority shareholder, thus NBC at least 63%. Snider had nothing to do with Lukko. If you think a minority owner at CMCSA calls the shots, you're kidding yourself. Forcing Lukko out was CMCSA telling Snider that he's done calling the shots after they bought NBC. This about shareholder profit. CMCSA owning a losing NHL team does nothing to help their NHL contract or ratings. This comes down to profit and once the cap was implemented, Snider's front office has been a salary disaster. He's the Jerry Jones of the NHL and Comcast didn't get this big by being stupid. David Scott was chosen by CMCSA to take over for Lukko after being VP and CFO for Comcast for years. That certainly wasn't Snider's idea

momadance wrote:

The Savior wrote:colossal failure from giroux in this series

Seriously.

You guys are actually smart so I hope that narrative doesn't take hold among the mouth breather types. I had a friend on Facebook who wanted G gone around November of this year.

I personally have an unhealthy love of G, Simmonds, Coots, and Mason. The rest are all up in the air to me.

momadance wrote:Forcing Lukko out was CMCSA telling Snider that he's done calling the shots after they bought NBC.

So the McDonald contract was Comcast's idea?

EndlessSummer wrote:

momadance wrote:

The Savior wrote:colossal failure from giroux in this series

Seriously.

You guys are actually smart so I hope that narrative doesn't take hold among the mouth breather types. I had a friend on Facebook who wanted G gone around November of this year.

I personally have an unhealthy love of G, Simmonds, Coots, and Mason. The rest are all up in the air to me.

The Rangers always play G well. I only think they trade Coots because they could potentially get a lot in return for him.

Swiggers wrote:

momadance wrote:Forcing Lukko out was CMCSA telling Snider that he's done calling the shots after they bought NBC.

So the McDonald contract was Comcast's idea?

Yes, they just forgot to fire Homer halfway through the season. Not sure how many Fortune 500 CEO's know how to run pro sports team though.

momadance wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:Spectacor owns the Flyers. Not Comcast. Snider got rid of Lukko.

Snider is still very much a part of the Flyers.

Stop. It's called Comcast-Spectacor for a reason. Comcast is the majority shareholder, thus NBC at least 63%. Snider had nothing to do with Lukko. If you think a minority owner at CMCSA calls the shots, you're kidding yourself. Forcing Lukko out was CMCSA telling Snider that he's done calling the shots after they bought NBC. This about shareholder profit. CMCSA owning a losing NHL team does nothing to help their NHL contract or ratings. This comes down to profit and once the cap was implemented, Snider's front office has been a salary disaster. He's the Jerry Jones of the NHL and Comcast didn't get this big by being stupid. David Scott was chosen by CMCSA to take over for Lukko after being VP and CFO for Comcast for years. That certainly wasn't Snider's idea

The Flyers are a lot of things, but "a losing NHL team" isn't one of them. They're a very profitable NHL team, and that's all Comcast would give a shit about.

mcare89 wrote:The Flyers are a lot of things, but "a losing NHL team" isn't one of them. They're a very profitable NHL team, and that's all Comcast would give a shit about.

If you don't think comcast owning the NHL TV rights and owning a team that can go deep in the playoffs is in their best interest, then I don't know what to tell you. They missed the playoffs lasted year. Out in the first round this year. They're mediocre. Comcast didn't sell the sixers for shits and giggles.

momadance wrote:

mcare89 wrote:The Flyers are a lot of things, but "a losing NHL team" isn't one of them. They're a very profitable NHL team, and that's all Comcast would give a shit about.

If you don't think comcast owning the NHL TV rights and owning a team that can go deep in the playoffs is in their best interest, then I don't know what to tell you. They didn't sell the sixers for shits and giggles.

Sure, it's in their best interests. But I didn't say that. You called them "a losing NHL team." They are not. They draw huge ratings regardless, which is why they play ridiculous schedules like a back-to-back in games 6 and 7, and they are one of the most valuable franchises in the NHL. They may need some work on the ice, but off-ice, their business is as strong as ever. Ticket sales are strong, local TV ratings are very strong, and their national ratings remain consistently strong.

Selling the Sixers was one of the worst financial decisions Comcast-Spectacor ever made. They doubled in value a year after C-S sold them.

Cool. They have ratings. They missed the playoffs last year. Out in the first round this year. Thus losing a shit ton of revenue. That's awesome that the sixers doubled in value. When it comes to a business balance sheet, cash on hand means millions more than assets on paper. Owning the sixers right now wouldn't do shit for Comcast. Stockholders don't care. Cash is worth so much more than assets when it comes to share price and shareholders. They're all about acquisitions right now. They want as much cash as possible right now, not paper assets. Comcast buying NBC and now TWC is going to change a lot within C-S and possibly the Phillies in the next few years.

glad the refs let them play tonight. much more enjoyable that way.

momadance wrote:Cool. They have ratings. They missed the playoffs last year. Out in the first round this year. Thus losing a shit ton of revenue. That's awesome that the sixers doubled in value. When it comes to a business balance sheet, cash on hand means millions more than assets on paper. Owning the sixers right now wouldn't do shit for Comcast.

Your original argument was "owning a losing team doesn't do anything for their NHL contract or ratings." Now you're crapping on the idea that strong ratings would matter to the cable provider that owns them. Pick a side. I realized you're pissed about the losing, but you're way off on the business side of things.

They're losing some revenue by not going deep into the playoffs, but not nearly as much as they'd lose if the Flyers weren't consistently a marquee franchise, which is what they've been for pretty much the entire team Snider has run things.

And that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they wanted cash on hand, they could've waited a year and a half and sold them for $600 million instead of just dumping them for $280 million. If C-S could do that deal over again, they absolutely would.

If cash-on-hand is more valuable to them, why aren't they selling the Flyers too?

mcare89 wrote:

momadance wrote:Cool. They have ratings. They missed the playoffs last year. Out in the first round this year. Thus losing a shit ton of revenue. That's awesome that the sixers doubled in value. When it comes to a business balance sheet, cash on hand means millions more than assets on paper. Owning the sixers right now wouldn't do shit for Comcast.

Your original argument was "owning a losing team doesn't do anything for their NHL contract or ratings." Now you're crapping on the idea that strong ratings would matter to the cable provider that owns them. Pick a side. I realized you're pissed about the losing, but you're way off on the business side of things.

They're losing some revenue by not going deep into the playoffs, but not nearly as much as they'd lose if the Flyers weren't consistently a marquee franchise, which is what they've been for pretty much the entire team Snider has run things.

And that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they wanted cash on hand, they could've waited a year and a half and sold them for $600 million instead of just dumping them for $280 million. If C-S could do that deal over again, they absolutely would.

If cash-on-hand is more valuable to them, why aren't they selling the Flyers too?

ffs, don't ever own a business. If they waited a year and a half they wouldn't be buying TWC right now.

momadance wrote:

mcare89 wrote:

momadance wrote:Cool. They have ratings. They missed the playoffs last year. Out in the first round this year. Thus losing a shit ton of revenue. That's awesome that the sixers doubled in value. When it comes to a business balance sheet, cash on hand means millions more than assets on paper. Owning the sixers right now wouldn't do shit for Comcast.

Your original argument was "owning a losing team doesn't do anything for their NHL contract or ratings." Now you're crapping on the idea that strong ratings would matter to the cable provider that owns them. Pick a side. I realized you're pissed about the losing, but you're way off on the business side of things.

They're losing some revenue by not going deep into the playoffs, but not nearly as much as they'd lose if the Flyers weren't consistently a marquee franchise, which is what they've been for pretty much the entire team Snider has run things.

And that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they wanted cash on hand, they could've waited a year and a half and sold them for $600 million instead of just dumping them for $280 million. If C-S could do that deal over again, they absolutely would.

If cash-on-hand is more valuable to them, why aren't they selling the Flyers too?

ffs, don't ever own a business.

cool argument, thanks

mcare89 wrote:

momadance wrote:

mcare89 wrote:

momadance wrote:Cool. They have ratings. They missed the playoffs last year. Out in the first round this year. Thus losing a shit ton of revenue. That's awesome that the sixers doubled in value. When it comes to a business balance sheet, cash on hand means millions more than assets on paper. Owning the sixers right now wouldn't do shit for Comcast.

Your original argument was "owning a losing team doesn't do anything for their NHL contract or ratings." Now you're crapping on the idea that strong ratings would matter to the cable provider that owns them. Pick a side. I realized you're pissed about the losing, but you're way off on the business side of things.

They're losing some revenue by not going deep into the playoffs, but not nearly as much as they'd lose if the Flyers weren't consistently a marquee franchise, which is what they've been for pretty much the entire team Snider has run things.

And that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If they wanted cash on hand, they could've waited a year and a half and sold them for $600 million instead of just dumping them for $280 million. If C-S could do that deal over again, they absolutely would.

If cash-on-hand is more valuable to them, why aren't they selling the Flyers too?

ffs, don't ever own a business.

cool argument, thanks

Anytime. You apparently can't comprehend anything. No worries. You'll survive.

ReadingPhilly wrote:glad the refs let them play tonight. much more enjoyable that way.

It was. Never got out of hand physically either.