Utley Major Surgery

by **Shore** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:23:06

stevemc wrote:I have an concern that hip surgery at 30 might lead to diminished range for him at 2B.

Once we trade Howard for Halladay, Utley can move to first. Manny in LF will ease the power lost with Donald replacing Howard in the lineup.

by **seke2** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:25:38

eric bruntlett hit a HR in the playoffs and scored 2 of the most important runs in franchise history

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:28:43

ek wrote:I knew this in August. here is the play where he originally got hurt

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid= ... 3&c_id=phi

I was always afraid he hurt it in that collision with Rowand. He didn't hit well after that collision for a while and then it seemed like a chronic type thing that reemerged as he played the long season last year. But looking at that clip, I can see how he did it. Thanks.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:29:05

stevemc wrote:I have an concern that hip surgery at 30 might lead to diminished range for him at 2B.

Hopefully the procedure only goes as far as an arthro-$#@!-scopic procedure.

He was far and away the best defensive 2B in the league with a bum hip. I can't imagine he'll be worse after the surgery.

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:32:18

stevemc wrote:I have an concern that hip surgery at 30 might lead to diminished range for him at 2B.

Hopefully the procedure only goes as far as an arthro-$#@!-scopic procedure.

and hopefully he didn't damage it further by playing on it for months, though the championship was worth it.

by **stevemc** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:36:20

ReadingPhilly wrote:
stevemc wrote:I have an concern that hip surgery at 30 might lead to diminished range for him at 2B.

Hopefully the procedure only goes as far as an arthro-$#@!-scopic procedure.

He was far and away the best defensive 2B in the league with a bum hip. I can't imagine he'll be worse after the surgery.

you never know once you go under the knife. Complications, scar tissue, constricted movement. It might not hurt his range immediately but there could be a long term issue there.

by **Werthless** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 15:38:06

Moving Utley to first diminishes his value. He's awesome because he plays such an elite 2B defensively. His offense at 1B is good, but not MVP good, like he is at 2B.

And I don't think Harman is the answer. At all. In 2008, at AA, he hit .210/.280/.366, with a bad K rate. His second full year at Clearwater, as a 21 year old in 2007, he had a good year offensively (.790 OPS). You can't project ok numbers at Clearwater a year ago to replacement level production at the ML level. He's probably 2 years away, at which time he'll still only be 24/25.

by **BrianOrange** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 16:18:28

* Amaro said he thought Utley’s struggles - for Utley - in the second half were more mechanical. He wasn’t sure how much that had to do with Utley’s right hip.

This is a joke, right?

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 16:23:56

So, apparently championship champagne provides up to 4 weeks of pain relief :idea:

by **kenrosenthal** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 16:36:23

Phan In Phlorida wrote:So, apparently championship champagne provides up to 4 weeks of pain relief

i mean has earned a vacation. give him a month off before he has to be in crutches

by **Philly the Kid** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 16:59:21

Hopefully the procedure will go well, and he'll recover perfectly. Explains his cooling down from the hot start somewhat. The only thing is this -- medical surgeons are invested in cutting. They believe that cutting is often the answer. I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, aren't cuatious, but I wonder sometimes -- if simple rest could allow it to heal. If he took certain physical therapy and rest?? Less invasive, less recovery -- and maybe there is something on an MRI, but does it absolutely require the knife? I saw the word "exploratory" in one of the articles -- what if there is nothing signficant to find? Hips are critical for hitters. Obviously, this is between Chase, his doctors and his family. I wish him a speedy recovery and return to the lineup, I'm still waiting for him to have that complete MVP season and give us a tri-fecta, not to mention -- I really like winning World Series, gimme some more!

by **philliesphhan** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 17:06:16

ek wrote:http://blogs.courierpostonline.com/phillies/

* The Phillies according to general manager Rube Amaro Jr. are in a position to go into the season without Utley with Eric Bruntlett and Jason Donald.

by **The Dude** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 17:07:07

Philly the Kid wrote:Hopefully the procedure will go well, and he'll recover perfectly. Explains his cooling down from the hot start somewhat. The only thing is this -- medical surgeons are invested in cutting. They believe that cutting is often the answer. I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, aren't cuatious, but I wonder sometimes -- if simple rest could allow it to heal. If he took certain physical therapy and rest?? Less invasive, less recovery -- and maybe there is something on an MRI, but does it absolutely require the knife? I saw the word "exploratory" in one of the articles -- what if there is nothing signficant to find? Hips are critical for hitters. Obviously, this is between Chase, his doctors and his family. I wish him a speedy recovery and return to the lineup, I'm still waiting for him to have that complete MVP season and give us a tri-fecta, not to mention -- I really like winning World Series, gimme some more!

They're doing the scope b/c they don't know the extent of the surgery. This is a guy who makes some people millions of dollars. They're not throwing him on a slab and letting Freddy Kreuger have at him

by **Ace Rothstein** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 17:42:06

i wonder what took so long for this announcement to come out , he had the MRI done the monday after the parade

by **karn** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 17:51:50

It sounds like he was gathering information / seeking multiple opinions

by **Woody** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 18:00:35

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 18:06:48

ek wrote:I knew this in August. here is the play where he originally got hurt

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid= ... 3&c_id=phi

I thought I read that he started having symptoms in Spring Training.

by **FTN** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 18:23:53

Bakestar wrote:
ek wrote:I knew this in August. here is the play where he originally got hurt

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid= ... 3&c_id=phi

I thought I read that he started having symptoms in Spring Training.

you did.

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 18:49:52

FTN wrote:
Bakestar wrote:
ek wrote:I knew this in August. here is the play where he originally got hurt

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid= ... 3&c_id=phi

I thought I read that he started having symptoms in Spring Training.

you did.

Dang it. So I'm back to being worried about the hit with Rowand.

by **Bakestar** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 18:53:27

I'd feel better if it were a single "trauma" i.e., the Feliz play, than I do with some ambiguous possibly degenerative thing. Hips are tricky.

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