lowcountry wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Do you guys really think they shouldn't have played last night? I think people would be plenty pissed if they just packed it in at 7 o clock or so.

I suspect they'd have gotten over it.

yeah, at around 10 o'clock when the monsoon set in

lowcountry wrote:

Wizlah wrote:I think you can still make the argument for most effective pitcher in the most highly levereged situation, but I'm not comfortable with the risk involved. *especially* given myers ability to give up runs early in his showing. logically, you can say that if he pitches effectively (whenev), we don't need to worry about him in game 6, but it scares me.

That's actually the best reason to use him in Game 5. Maybe the only reason, admittedly.

In game 6, he'll begin the game facing Iwamura-Crawford-Upton. If he enters Game 5, he gets Navarro-Baldelli-Bartlett before he ever has to worry about the big hitters. He'd have a chance to settle into a groove before facing their big guns.

Hrm, fair point. But Flop's right - save mad dog for the top of the order.

The nice thing is the Phils get the extra at bat in this mini game. I think they have to play for one run right away. If they can small ball at least one run in the 6th I'm feeling really good about this.

Madson to pitch the 7th. Have him start the 8th then use a loogy if needed. Lidge in if needed for last batter in 8th and pitch the 9th. Lidge has had a ton of rest.

Because if it's one thing the Phils have been good at, it's manufacturing runs.

Man, this entire situation is the drizzling shits.

lowcountry wrote:Because if it's one thing the Phils have been good at, it's manufacturing runs.

Man, this entire situation is the drizzling $#@!.

Well, they haven't really been in this position of needing to scratch out one run late.

ek wrote:doesn't mean they can't try and please don't rip into his opinion. he's entitled

It's a great idea, but they've been pretty much unable to do it all series.

Grotewold wrote:

lowcountry wrote:Because if it's one thing the Phils have been good at, it's manufacturing runs.

Man, this entire situation is the drizzling $#@!.

Well, they haven't really been in this position of needing to scratch out one run late.

PH with Brunt. Tell him to lean into one and then steal second and advance to 3rd on the bad throw. That's the plan.

Well, when you have a lights out bullpen with only three innings to pitch one run may be all that's needed.

Who's up first for the Phils when the game resumes?

slamjim wrote:Well, when you have a lights out bullpen with only three innings to pitch one run may be all that's needed.

Who's up first for the Phils when the game resumes?

Hamels

slamjim wrote:Well, when you have a lights out bullpen with only three innings to pitch one run may be all that's needed.

Who's up first for the Phils when the game resumes?

As someone has mentioned, Madson's velocity looks down a little. With two days off, it could be back, I suppose. If not, I'm worried it'll be Durbin in the 7th, Madson in the 8th against the top of the order and then soembody else against the heart of the order if the Phils don't have a lead.

The drama will be in when Charlie chooses to use Lidge, seeing as how it's entirely possible, if not likely, that there won't be a save situation at any point.

or Dobby or Brunt or Sososososo or Stairs or Coste.......

Hmmm. So, TB has to have a pitcher come out first and be announced which means our PH will get the left/ right advantage to start the inning unless they want to burn a pitcher before he even throws a pitch.

Well, two ways to go here. You go Stairs for the homer or maybe Brunt to lead off. He gets on I'd have Jimmy bunt him.

Another thing that's nice is we potentially have our top of the order twice in the mini game while TB uses the bottom twice.

slamjim wrote:Hmmm. So, TB has to have a pitcher come out first and be announced which means our PH will get the left/ right advantage to start the inning unless they want to burn a pitcher before he even throws a pitch.

Well, two ways to go here. You go Stairs for the homer or maybe Brunt to lead off. He gets on I'd have Jimmy bunt him.

Balfour has been in, so he's the guy ... at least until the PH comes out. The question is whether or not the Rays will immediately go to Price (and have him face PH, JRoll and Wertz) or use somebody else and save Price for Utley-Howard.

They've been using Price as a closer so far, so there's no telling at what point they'd go to him. Since the game is in Philadelphia, it's at least a little more likely they'd wait to use him -- at least compared to a game in Tampa.

slamjim wrote:Hmmm. So, TB has to have a pitcher come out first and be announced which means our PH will get the left/ right advantage to start the inning unless they want to burn a pitcher before he even throws a pitch.

Actually, this is a weird situation where Tampa actually has the advantage. Basically, they can send Balfour out to warm up and start the inning since he was pitching at the end of the 5th and was not pinch hit for. Then we'll pinch hit with Dobbs/Stairs/Jenkins. At that point, they can lift Balfour for Price/Miller/Howell. So we really can't get the Left/Right advantage without burning a player.

seke2 wrote:Actually, this is a weird situation where Tampa actually has the advantage. Basically, they can send Balfour out to warm up and start the inning since he was pitching at the end of the 5th and was not pinch hit for. Then we'll pinch hit with Dobbs/Stairs/Jenkins. At that point, they can lift Balfour for Price/Miller/Howell. So we really can't get the Left/Right advantage without burning a player.

It forces their hand on one of their lefty relievers, though. If they bring one in, he'll have to either face JR and JW, or be lost after just 1 batter.

I'd send up Jenkins to pinch hit no matter what. I would save Dobbs and Stairs for later in the game if needed. I really don't care about left right. I personally think that Maddon is just going to come right out with Price anyway.

I hope they score in the 6th so if they hold the lead, Cole gets the win and sets the record

lowcountry wrote:

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Do you guys really think they shouldn't have played last night? I think people would be plenty pissed if they just packed it in at 7 o clock or so.

I suspect they'd have gotten over it.

I think you guys are underestimating how strange it would seem if they called it last night when it was cold but barely drizzling.

BigB wrote:I'd send up Jenkins to pinch hit no matter what. I would save Dobbs and Stairs for later in the game if needed. I really don't care about left right. I personally think that Maddon is just going to come right out with Price anyway.

If (shockingly) Jenkins gets on you run Taguchi with Jimmy up next. I doubt Charlie runs Brunt as he'll want him for later to replace Burrell IF we get a 6th or 7th inning lead.