Monkeyboy wrote:

FlightRisk wrote:Monkeyboy your opinions imploded in this timeline, now there's a third Spock running around (with a Van Dyke).

So did you like the scenes with the two Spocks or the scene where Kirk meets Spock on the frozen planet (not counting the Scotty part because that was a separate issue). Just wondering. Those were the only two scenes that I didn't like.

I liked all of the scenes with the Old Spock except the flashbacks\exposition. I thought that was a little ham handed.

lol be a spacebitch

Worf is kind of a dick though.

Still shocked Geordie and Data didn't make gay robot babies.

i started that video then realized it was 14 minutes long. lol no thanks.

Houshphandzadeh wrote:

Damn, that's cold.

Worf character started so weak and ended so strong. Dude even got mad respect from Jem Haddar!!

Got back his family's honor!

I also dug his brother Kern! Plus he macked Dax!

I hope someday a real quality producer/director/writer combo brings back Star Trek but with a much much more intense and serious style. Build on the mythology but drop the bs melo-drama and take it to the level of some of the top HBO series...even if they brought it to HBO and only did 10 eppisode seasons.

DS9 probably was the best overall, and partly due to the fact they were the only series not flying through space every episode. But the show needs to be taken out of the hands of the last creative teams that controlled it and that's probably never gonna happen...

sadly...

I loved TNG so much growing up but I can't imagine trying to slog through the series

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I loved TNG so much growing up but I can't imagine trying to slog through the series

The early stuff is rough to watch now, but the later stuff when the characters matured a bit...

I've said this I'm sure before - but I used to break all Star Trek episodes for all the series in to 3 categories:

Level 3 = melo-drama in space suits (long lost brother, love interest, blah blah) boring.
Level 2 = techno-babble - (oh my god, the nanite propes are replicating and will eat the core - what will we do, oh we save the day at the last minnute again - yay! ) (or as Scotty said in the TOS "Captain, I feel like got ants crawling all over me body...")

But the real pay-off for Star Trek are the Level 1 episodes -which are split in to two-subcategories:

A) The super-races and galactic-poitical stuff - Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Jem Haddar, Liquid Beings from Gamma Quadrant, Vorta, etc... or the Borg or the Q -- Obsidian Order, Section 31, Tal Shiar, etc...

B) Time and Space. (your last thought becomes a warp bubble of reality) (causality loops) (parallel dimensions) - it's amazing to contemplate that stuff ...

The temporal prime directive.

Also, what made Star Trek so good and better than most of the other stuff in space, was that it built its own canon and history, characters re-appear are referred to. When Picard meets Spok I got chills man! :- )

Same actors coming back to play same character 30 years later...that's cool.

i'm on the fifth season of ds9. it's so damn good

pacino wrote:i'm on the fifth season of ds9. it's so damn good

YE

i'd never go through TNG. too campy and singular. kinda want to watch the last series they did(think it was CW network show or something)

Season 6, Episode 13 'Far Beyond the Stars' is amazing.

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I loved TNG so much growing up but I can't imagine trying to slog through the series

it holds up

Has anyone else seen "The Captains" documentary from last year? (currently on Netflix Instant) It's William Shatner traveling around interviewing all the other actors who played Star Trek captains in starring roles (Stewart, Brooks, Mulgrew, Bakula, Pine). I wouldn't say it's a high quality documentary- it probably hurt the film having Shatner himself as writer and director and interviewer instead of someone more competent- but it was very fun to watch. It was obviously a labor of love project for Bill. Avery Brooks must have been high on something, or high on life. His interview is done at a piano and Brooks avoids questions by spontaneously making up songs with a giant grin on his face. As Shatner said on stage at a convention scene "He's out there."

I see a lot of love for DS9 in this thread, and Avery Brooks was the main reason I could not warm up to that show.

His acting was stiff, and I didn't believe for one minute that he was a Starfleet commander, let alone a baseball fan (which was part of his backstory). I know the guy is an accomplished stage actor and succeeded on TV before with the Spenser for Hire stuff, but he just ruined DS9 for me.

BuddyGroom wrote:I see a lot of love for DS9 in this thread, and Avery Brooks was the main reason I could not warm up to that show.

His acting was stiff, and I didn't believe for one minute that he was a Starfleet commander, let alone a baseball fan (which was part of his backstory). I know the guy is an accomplished stage actor and succeeded on TV before with the Spenser for Hire stuff, but he just ruined DS9 for me.

Wow, I never saw it like that. I really enjoyed his character - "The Prophet" was dope!