My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 08:09:13

The chief lobbyist for the NRA emerged from the White House last evening to whip out his phone and tweet that Trump and Pence do not believe in gun control, are strong supporters of the Second Amendment, and are strong supporters of due process. Sort of the exact opposite of everything he's been yapping about lately, but I know that there's no surprise here.


I have to be honest and say that I don't actually remember a time when the White House was watched so closely that you had a sense of lobbyists coming and going at all. But then again I also don't get the sense that lobbyists have been terribly welcome in many white houses.

I will say that I cannot admit to being terribly fond of the idea of someone making an assessment and taking an action without any qualification. The grab the gun and sort it out later is really messy. It's completely different if there's a reason but the open-endedness of Trump's comments is concerning.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Mar 02, 2018 08:53:00

thephan wrote:The grab the gun and sort it out later is really messy. It's completely different if there's a reason but the open-endedness of Trump's comments is concerning.



It's exactly what the gun lovers said they feared from Obama, that he would do a gun grab and here is the candidate they supported in droves and saying exactly that
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Mar 02, 2018 08:55:36

Nick Miccarelli, PA House Rep from Delaware County has been accused of rape
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:09:25

Sarah Sanders stopped by the Press Briefing Room to refute the Cox/NRA statements. What I want to know is if reporters are just sitting in the briefing room? All day and night 24/7? Seems weird to pop in around 0800 and make some news. Since we know about it, I guess there is someone there.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:13:49

@realDonaldTrump

Alec Baldwin, whose dying mediocre career was saved by his terrible impersonation of me on SNL, now says playing me was agony. Alec, it was agony for those who were forced to watch. Bring back Darrell Hammond, funnier and a far greater talent!


So important to get this out there. Get to work you buffoon (me too).
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:17:37

thephan wrote:Sarah Sanders stopped by the Press Briefing Room to refute the Cox/NRA statements. What I want to know is if reporters are just sitting in the briefing room? All day and night 24/7? Seems weird to pop in around 0800 and make some news. Since we know about it, I guess there is someone there.


Reporters all have desk space right outside the briefing room

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:21:46

Mango and Wagner go in on each other in a debate last night:
Mango accused Wagner of killing an amendment in 2016 that would have protected property managers' rights to limit usage of any bathroom, locker room or dressing room based on a person's biological sex.

"He cast the deciding vote that killed that amendment," Mango said. "He is not keeping our kids safe and secure."

"This is the best time to call him lying Paul," Wagner retorted, in an echo of President Donald J. Trump's attacks on some of his 2016 campaign foes.

Wagner went on to say the bill he ushered through his Senate committee that year simply prohibits any discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in the areas of employment or housing, period.

the one thing Wagner isn't horrible on is the thing Mango attacks him on.
another fun one is who is the better businessman:
Wagner claimed his York County trash hauling company, Penn Waste, proves his worth as a job creator because he routinely hands out 600 paychecks.

He accused Mango of killing jobs as a consultant for the firm McKinsey and Company.

Mango shot back.

"The business I created is ten times the size of Penn Waste, just so you know," he said.

Mango also sought to measure conservatism, declaring himself the "most conservative" candidate in the race. Responding after the debate, Wagner seemed unwilling to engage.

none of the three (Ellsworth is the third person running) support any new gun regulations, all support an illegal measure to cut down the abortion timeframe, and all said they'd align with Trump.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:23:59

thephan wrote:
@realDonaldTrump

Alec Baldwin, whose dying mediocre career was saved by his terrible impersonation of me on SNL, now says playing me was agony. Alec, it was agony for those who were forced to watch. Bring back Darrell Hammond, funnier and a far greater talent!


So important to get this out there. Get to work you buffoon (me too).

tbf Alec Baldwin is a terrible person; Trump can probably spot a terrible person
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:36:13

This gem flew under the radar:

Pence said in a Saturday, February 17th, 2018 in a speech in Dallas that "along the southern border of the U.S.," the government apprehends "seven individuals a day who are either known or suspected terrorists."

Completely false FWIW.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby JUburton » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:52:00

'trade wars are good'. - the president of the united states

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Fri Mar 02, 2018 09:56:10

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Grotewold » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:00:08

JUburton wrote:'trade wars are good'. - the president of the united states


I mean among the wars he could start they're pretty low stakes. I guess a parking war

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:03:09

Grotewold wrote:
JUburton wrote:'trade wars are good'. - the president of the united states


I mean among the wars he could start they're pretty low stakes. I guess a parking war


often trade wars lead to cold wars and even hot wars
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:07:36

Grotewold wrote:
JUburton wrote:'trade wars are good'. - the president of the united states


I mean among the wars he could start they're pretty low stakes. I guess a parking war

the front lines in Fulladelfua will littered with boots and double-parked cars
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Bucky » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:18:38

well, it looks like the 401K talking point will be moot soon. Oh well, I'm still in 'buying' mode anyway.

SIgnificantly more press about this than the solar panel tariff. Watch building construction projects start to fall off and be cancelled.

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:47:54

Bucky wrote:well, it looks like the 401K talking point will be moot soon. Oh well, I'm still in 'buying' mode anyway.

SIgnificantly more press about this than the solar panel tariff. Watch building construction projects start to fall off and be cancelled.



Well, the steel and aluminum tariffs will probably be a much bigger problem for the building trades. You can do some building without solar panels, but steel and aluminum are pretty essential.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:54:29

what an utter POS:
According to the depositions, Lloyd denied all seven requests for abortions that reached his desk between March and Dec. 19. He admitted that he believes undocumented minors don’t have a constitutional right to an abortion, even in the case of rape, and that he received a spreadsheet every week with details of all pregnant minors in ORR’s care.

Lloyd also said that he spoke with White House staff about the abortion policy, but not with the HHS secretary, which was Tom Price for most of that period. He said that he had not reviewed abortion policies of other agencies responsible for immigrants.

In a March 2017 email exchange, the Young Center, which was an independent child advocate for unaccompanied minors in ORR custody in Arizona, raised legal concerns about ORR's requirement that shelters notify parents about an abortion request over the objections of the minor, arguing that the policy violated state and federal health privacy laws. The group also worried, in a particular case, that the minor’s father would retaliate against her mother in her home country if he learned about the abortion.

And months later, operators of an Arizona shelter run by Austin-based Southwest Key were still requesting repeated clarification from HHS about how to proceed in the case of a minor who had requested an abortion but didn't want to notify her parents, according to a September email exchange. Lloyd insisted that "program should notify regardless of the [minor's] wishes."

Since last fall, the ACLU has filed suits against the Trump administration on behalf of four pregnant teens who arrived in the U.S. without their parents for blocking their requests for abortions. In three cases, the girl was eventually able to obtain the abortion, and in the fourth the girl was immediately released to a sponsor.

it is utterly illegal to deny them services. this man is unfit for his job.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:34:55

pacino wrote:Nick Miccarelli, PA House Rep from Delaware County has been accused of rape


One of the women, who was in a relationship with Miccarelli in 2012, claimed in the complaint that during one argument, he brandished a gun while driving at speeds in excess of 100 mph, threatening to kill them both. The second woman alleges that Miccarelli forced her to have sex with him after their relationship ended in 2014.

The women said in interviews that they remained silent for years because they feared that speaking up would jeopardize their careers, if not their lives. They are coming forward as the #MeToo movement has emboldened many women across the nation to openly discuss what they describe as a pervasive culture of sexual harassment or abuse in the workplace.

he responds:
Representative Nick Miccarelli is an honorable man and a patriot who has served his district and our nation with honor and distinction. He vehemently denies the allegations leveled against him by two unnamed, former girlfriends with whom he had consensual sexual relations before he was married. A short time ago, the State Republican Caucus suggested to Representative Miccarelli that he voluntarily resign his House seat rather than continue to fight to clear his name. Nick is currently not inclined to follow that suggestion. It needs to be said that the #MeToo movement is laudable, but what about the #NotMe movement? Nick Miccarelli is an innocent man. An unfortunate byproduct of the #MeToo movement has been a tendency by too many people to rush to judgment in the court of public opinion. Likewise, the suggestion that Nick resign is made before he's even seen the legal complaint, let alone been afforded the opportunity to defend himself. This entire process has been grossly unfair. Nick Miccarelli, like every other American citizen, has the right to due process. Nick fought in the Middle East to protect Americans' rights to due process. It's bitterly ironic that he's not being given the same right while he's fighting to save his reputation and career.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:40:28

Carl Icahn dumped his steel stocks last week

pretty lucky timing
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Bucky » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:50:01

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-ichan-s ... deb8beaf0/

we gonna run out of special counsels

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