Per Reuters one in eight Trump voters would change their vote

06hawkalum wrote:

Phred wrote:Bummer about McCain but what happens now to his seat? Is there a special election to replace him?

Nope...Republican governor will appoint someone to the seat until the 2018 elections.

Who then would serve until 2022.

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Per Reuters one in eight Trump voters would change their vote

So some of the independents and crossover votes. 12.5% is not nearly enough. What would the percentage of republican identifying women be, and would they need to ask their families permission to change their vote? Maybe that sounds harsh, but spending a little time with my sister-in-law and her mid-west family gave me some rather warped perspective, and honestly it was less her family unit and more her extended family.

that's actually a lot considering tribalism

McCain is not dead, and he hasn't resigned to my knowledge.

I think everyone knows this, but just wanted to state it to be safe.

pacino wrote:that's actually a lot considering tribalism

He loses the election rather badly if true

pacino wrote:FiveThirtyEight's take on the recent PPP poll:

45 percent

Percentage of Trump voters who believed that Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer during the election, which is very low given that Donald Trump Jr. personally tweeted out the emails detailing the planning of the meeting, discussed attending the meeting at length in an interview with Sean Hannity, and also that the president discussed the meeting which definitely happened, in print yesterday.

TO BE FAIR, posing the fact as a question inserts some doubt into the idea that DJTJR met with the lawyer so it's probably not a good polling question. Or, people are being stupid.

Some more numbers:

- The poll found that 72 percent of Trump voters consider the Russia story to be "fake news," with just 14 percent disagreeing.

- Seventy-seven percent of Trump voters said they would support the president staying in office, even if investigations find Trump did indeed collude with Russia to earn his spot in the Oval Office.

source

JUburton wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

Phred wrote:Bummer about McCain but what happens now to his seat? Is there a special election to replace him?

Nope...Republican governor will appoint someone to the seat until the 2018 elections.

Who then would serve until 2022.

so does this mean the person appointed would serve until 2022, or the person elected in 2018 would serve until 2022?

If the latter, is this pretty much still a safe R seat??

Bucky wrote:

JUburton wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

Phred wrote:Bummer about McCain but what happens now to his seat? Is there a special election to replace him?

Nope...Republican governor will appoint someone to the seat until the 2018 elections.

Who then would serve until 2022.

so does this mean the person appointed would serve until 2022, or the person elected in 2018 would serve until 2022?

If the latter, is this pretty much still a safe R seat??

McCain was re-elected in 2016. The replacement serves until the next state-wide election, which is 2018, and the winner of this special elections serves the remainder of McCain's term (2022).

slugsrbad wrote:

Bucky wrote:

JUburton wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

Phred wrote:Bummer about McCain but what happens now to his seat? Is there a special election to replace him?

Nope...Republican governor will appoint someone to the seat until the 2018 elections.

Who then would serve until 2022.

so does this mean the person appointed would serve until 2022, or the person elected in 2018 would serve until 2022?

If the latter, is this pretty much still a safe R seat??

McCain was re-elected in 2016. The replacement serves until the next state-wide election, which is 2018, and the winner of this special elections serves the remainder of McCain's term (2022).

Yeah so they'd likely have a 2018 primary for the special (and I guess Flake could get primaried) and they'd have two separate senate races, one probably Flake v. Dem and also the special one.

Of course we're a long way from that but it would be quite interesting.

slugsrbad wrote:McCain is not dead, and he hasn't resigned to my knowledge.

I think everyone knows this, but just wanted to state it to be safe.

He's going to be and he's going to have to.

I think everyone knows this, but just wanted to state it to be a dick.

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Per Reuters one in eight Trump voters would change their vote

Doesn't matter. The Russian thing and our republican run fair election commission have shown us that we can't trust our democratic process. It's best to just not have elections anymore.

Phred wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:McCain is not dead, and he hasn't resigned to my knowledge.

I think everyone knows this, but just wanted to state it to be safe.

He's going to be and he's going to have to.

I think everyone knows this, but just wanted to state it to be a dick.

Everyone doesn't know this, because he's not going to have to resign. Most sick senators just die in office. Honestly can't think of the last senator who was too sick to carry out his duties and resigned. Byrd/Thurmond/Kennedy all just hung on till they kicked it.

McCain might resign if he goes downhill to get another GOP vote in the Senate, but he'll probably die in office.

I LIKE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE BRAIN CANCER OK

jerseyhoya wrote:

Phred wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:McCain is not dead, and he hasn't resigned to my knowledge.

I think everyone knows this, but just wanted to state it to be safe.

He's going to be and he's going to have to.

I think everyone knows this, but just wanted to state it to be a dick.

Everyone doesn't know this, because he's not going to have to resign. Most sick senators just die in office. Honestly can't think of the last senator who was too sick to carry out his duties and resigned. Byrd/Thurmond/Kennedy all just hung on till they kicked it.

McCain might resign if he goes downhill to get another GOP vote in the Senate, but he'll probably die in office.

Yeah, Kennedy was basically in this exact situation and hung around for 15 months.

Session on camera affirming that he is staying on the job... that is the first step in his removal.

Mueller expanding investigation to include Trump business transactions - something Trump said in his rambling interview with the NYT would be outside Mueller's scope. I cannot wait for his response.

slugsrbad wrote:Mueller expanding investigation to include Trump business transactions - something Trump said in his rambling interview with the NYT would be outside Mueller's scope. I cannot wait for his response.

Trump saying that Muller should stay out, was just like slapping steak on the chain link fence separating Trump from junkyard dog Muller. Just another stupid move.

I really hope that didn't factor at all into Mueller's decision. In fact, the decision was probably made weeks ago.

funny how Ivanka and the baby rolled in once he started ragging on Mueller