The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jul 07, 2017 15:15:09

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CalvinBall wrote:you are missing the point of Trump accepting what he said. of course putin is going to deny it. he has been very consistent on that.

If you're taking Lavrov at his word.

Wouldn't shock me if it happened, but the guy is a professional liar.

yes, that's basically half of my point. a normal president would be able to say 'nuh uh' if he's been misquoted by their foreign minister and pull out the receipts. but not Don because he insisted on no notes. the other half of this is how believable this is for President Don to have said.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jul 07, 2017 15:48:49

he said, he said, he said, who said:
Putin’s denial of culpability notwithstanding, he and Trump agreed that the issue has become a hindrance to better relations between the two powers, said Tillerson, who attended the more-than-two-hour meeting along with Russia’s foreign minister. Tillerson said the discussion about the election meddling was “robust and lengthy.”

Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Tillerson said the two leaders had agreed to continue the discussion, with an eye toward securing a commitment that Russia won’t interfere in U.S. affairs in the future.

“I think the president is rightly focused on how do we move forward from something that may be an intractable disagreement at this point,” Tillerson said.

Putin’s denial of culpability notwithstanding, he and Trump agreed that the issue has become a hindrance to better relations between the two powers, said Tillerson, who attended the more-than-two-hour meeting along with Russia’s foreign minister. Tillerson said the discussion about the election meddling was “robust and lengthy.” Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Tillerson said the two leaders had agreed to continue the discussion, with an eye toward securing a commitment that Russia won’t interfere in U.S. affairs in the future. “I think the president is rightly focused on how do we move forward from something that may be an intractable disagreement at this point,” Tillerson said.

i'll wait for the trump/fox and friends interview for the good stuff
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Jul 07, 2017 17:41:19

WTF

First lady Melania Trump entered the meeting about an hour into the session to see if the leaders wanted to wrap up, but that the talks lasted another hour after that, Tillerson said.


Why the hell was she just popping in?
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Fri Jul 07, 2017 18:19:47

I'll bet Trump told her to do it in case he wanted an out.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Jul 07, 2017 19:34:18

^^its just like a blind date
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Savior » Fri Jul 07, 2017 21:23:37

Long strategy session I imagine.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 22:46:21

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thephan wrote:Rick Perry, our man at the DOE, spoke at a West Virginia coal plant today and had this to say:

"Here’s a little economics lesson: supply and demand. You put the supply out there and the demand will follow."

He is a dope.


I hope he added, "said nobody, ever". With little economics lessons like that, our country's bankruptcy courts will be tied up for decades.


This is the succinct thesis of supply side economics rendered into his own words by, admittedly, a moron: "supply creates its own demand." I mean, yes, Rick Perry is a twit, but honestly this says more about how a whole generation of rich, white, male Republicans were taught to think: he is just regurgitating,as best he can, the "wisdom" of Milton Friedman.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Sat Jul 08, 2017 08:14:17

mozartpc27 wrote:he is just regurgitating,as best he can, the "wisdom" of Milton Friedman.


never really thought of Uncle Miltie as a leader of the supply side charge
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:58:28

How long before both Trump and Putin deny that any meeting took place?
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Sat Jul 08, 2017 13:25:39

My neighbor, long time Trump National club champ, showed me pictures from his Tuesday round with the President. I think I did a great job of keeping my mouth shut, and opinions to myself.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Sat Jul 08, 2017 13:51:01

Ivanka Trump takes her father’s seat at world leaders’ table during a G-20 meeting

Because, of course. Teresa May <check>, Vladimir Putin <check>, Angela Merkel <check>, Xi <check>, and the first daughter senior political advisor who said she stays out of politics in an interview a few weeks ago, and has zero experience in international affairs.

Just another day people.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Sat Jul 08, 2017 14:49:55

Imagine the GOP heads exploding if it were Chelsea
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Sat Jul 08, 2017 15:23:13

Princess Ivanka deserves your respect and loyalty.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Sat Jul 08, 2017 15:59:18

To be fair, this is not new...

It isn't the first time Ivanka Trump has participated in high-level meetings at the summit. On Thursday night, she and her husband, Jared Kushner, another Trump adviser, joined the president at a bilateral meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Kushner also participated in Trump's bilateral meeting with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto on Friday.


... it's just new this week. Kind of explains the First Lady popping in with Putin the other day. Family is always welcome apparently.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby azrider » Sat Jul 08, 2017 16:16:27

the Russians can hack into our democratic voting process, they can install a puppet government in Washington, but taking over the board has gone too far. I've worked the phones hard here in Arizona to get the senior senator, john McCain on the line. He promised me this action will not go unpunished. He vowed military strikes and boots on the ground for this further intrusion into America. Such an amazing leader and god bless America.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Savior » Sat Jul 08, 2017 17:23:19

Dictators install their family members in key positions. This shouldn't be a surprise.

But hey it's all worth it for a tax break and trickle down economics. There's been so much trickle down over the past 9 years of incredible growth with no recessions!
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby azrider » Sat Jul 08, 2017 17:49:59

John F. Kennedy wrote:Dictators install their family members in key positions. This shouldn't be a surprise.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Sat Jul 08, 2017 18:28:59

At least RFK was qualified
Not that Donnie is qualified more than Ivanka
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sat Jul 08, 2017 18:41:12

Ivanka Trump: Our next RFK.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Sat Jul 08, 2017 20:34:01

Times is reporting Jr & Jared met w/a Kremlin-connected attorney a couple weeks after getting the nomination. Jared's in a position where he could do jail time for his poor memory, but of course it's unlikely because all the laws about this shit don't matter to anyone.

Funny these idiots can never remember any of these meetings they have.
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