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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 16:23:23

Good lord.

Nearly a month before Donald Trump was sworn in as president, Michael Flynn, his national security advisor designate, and other members of the president’s transition team launched a vigorous diplomatic bid to head off a U.N. Security Council vote condemning Israeli settlements.

The effort represented a fitful first foray into global diplomacy by Trump’s transition team, bearing hallmarks that have become familiar in the weeks since he took office. Their efforts were marked by a brusque disregard for diplomatic protocol, and a hasty pressure campaign that changed few, if any, minds.

In the end, the president-elect’s team was unable to persuade a single country to change their vote, including Britain, Egypt and Russia, three countries that have gone out of their way to cultivate better ties with the new American leader.

The episode also suggests that Flynn’s unconventional diplomatic activism in the weeks leading up to the inauguration was part of a highly coordinated effort at the highest ranks of the Trump team, including the president-elect, to shape the course of U.S. foreign relations.

That contrasts with the general portrayal so far of Flynn as a rogue envoy, whose secret talks in late December with Russia about sanctions were supposedly done without the knowledge of his superiors. Fox News reported Friday that Trump had been briefed on the full contents of Flynn’s discussions with the Russian ambassador.

Several hours before the landmark December 23 vote at the United Nations — which eventually denounced Israeli settlements over a pointed U.S. abstention — the Trump transition team approached the State Department with an urgent request: hand over any cell phone numbers, emails, and other contacts of ambassadors and foreign ministers from the Security Council’s 15 member states. The request, which was described by a former State Department official, was rejected out of fear that it would be used to scuttle American diplomatic aims.

But transition officials pressed ahead. In Washington, Trump aides pressed allies, including Egypt and Britain, who both played critical roles in helping the Palestinians draft the measure, to oppose the resolution.

“We were all under pressure” from either Israel or the Trump administration, said one Security Council diplomat.

Nikki Haley, the president’s pick to serve as U.N. envoy, sought frantically to reach Samantha Power, then still serving as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, calling her office and cell phone number, a U.S. official told Foreign Policy. Power’s advisors suspected Haley would try persuade Power to veto the resolution, and she did not take the call.


http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/17/logan-trump-israel-flynn-pressured-u-n-on-israel-vote-before-taking-office/

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 16:34:49

John Bolton is being mentioned on twitter as a possibility for NSA.

Always be careful what you wish for. Flynn was shady and crazy, but Bolton will get us all killed.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby drsmooth » Fri Feb 17, 2017 16:48:51

not sure even Bolton would put up with Bannon's shit
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby CFP » Fri Feb 17, 2017 17:44:41

Trump sent this tweet and then deleted it:

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby CFP » Fri Feb 17, 2017 17:53:11

Ah it was just the rough draft. I guess he had to add more news outlets:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4m4 minutes ago
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Fri Feb 17, 2017 17:54:42

He deleted it to add more outlets

He is terrible
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 17:57:42

CFP wrote:Ah it was just the rough draft. I guess he had to add more news outlets:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4m4 minutes ago
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

Love that he didn't have enough characters to include the Post... the outlet that probably digs up the most dirt on him.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby The Savior » Fri Feb 17, 2017 19:06:20

Continuing to create a narrative
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Feb 17, 2017 19:18:33

Did we ever get an answer of deleting tweets to fix typos and such violates retention/record keeping laws?
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Feb 17, 2017 19:18:45

It's weird people still get mad at the news. He's been pushing this weird lie for so long. It's exhausting and I don't even believe it.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby td11 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 19:51:40

Someone is going to murder a journalist
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby drsmooth » Fri Feb 17, 2017 23:22:01

so Petraeus has also decided he doesn't want to sully his brand with the drumpf stench
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Feb 18, 2017 00:58:42

It looks like a whole 24 hours without any trump idiocy
I would rather see you lose than win myself

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby The Savior » Sat Feb 18, 2017 09:14:23

Freedom of speech isn't a big deal anyway. You guys are overreacting.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Roger Dorn » Sat Feb 18, 2017 09:44:51

@JessicaYellin PBS, NEA, AmeriCorps, Legal Services Corp to be eliminated in prelim #Trump budget. Per @nytimes

Need to start cracking down on media that is critical. Also, love that Jared went to CEO of Time Warner to complain about coverage. Oh, and then there's this article:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/business/media/trump-era-media-censorship.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1&referer=https://t.co/Yts4x6wd41

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:21:28

Does Americorp do too much good work?
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby 06hawkalum » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:22:26

Roger Dorn wrote:@JessicaYellin PBS, NEA, AmeriCorps, Legal Services Corp to be eliminated in prelim #Trump budget. Per @nytimes

Need to start cracking down on media that is critical. Also, love that Jared went to CEO of Time Warner to complain about coverage. Oh, and then there's this article:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/business/media/trump-era-media-censorship.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1&referer=https://t.co/Yts4x6wd41

If you aren't scared yet you aren't paying attention.


If push comes to shove I am confident that ultra-wealthy libs like Buffett and Gates will fund those programs out of their own pockets until Trump gets the boot. They can certainly afford it.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:29:27

Relying on billionaires' good graces seems like you're setting yourself up to be disappointed.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby 06hawkalum » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:33:05

pacino wrote:Relying on billionaires' good graces seems like you're setting yourself up to be disappointed.


Perhaps...just seems pretty obvious this would be the ultimate outcome. Those programs' combined budgets are pocket change for Warren and Bill.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Roger Dorn » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:39:41

@thehill Leaked tape reveals Trump invited club guests to "come along" during cabinet interviews hill.cm/VFk8e7t
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