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Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Feb 19, 2017 15:47:09

Guys, we're not going to make it, are we?
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Feb 19, 2017 15:58:08

One of the things that isn't getting much attention is that trump has hardly started to nominate candidates for sub cabinet positions.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Feb 19, 2017 16:00:22

I just assumed he was going to fill those positions with people from random gun shows and anyone who gives him more than $10,000.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Feb 19, 2017 16:01:30

Monkeyboy wrote:Guys, we're not going to make it, are we?


If Sweden can make it so can we.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Feb 19, 2017 16:21:28

JFLNYC wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:Guys, we're not going to make it, are we?


If Sweden can make it so can we.



But their democracy is still functioning.

The longer this goes on without the GOP stepping up and doing what's right, the more negative I get. They seem to be willing to let our democracy fall apart just to kill SS, ACA, etc.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 19, 2017 17:11:05

Ukraine:
He entered Parliament in 2014, the year that the former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych fled to Moscow amid protests over his economic alignment with Russia and corruption. Mr. Manafort, who had been instrumental in getting Mr. Yanukovych elected, helped shape a political bloc that sprang up to oppose the new president, Mr. Poroshenko, a wealthy businessman who has taken a far tougher stance toward Russia and accused Mr. Putin of wanting to absorb Ukraine into a new Russian Empire. Mr. Artemenko, 48, emerged from the opposition that Mr. Manafort nurtured. (The two men have never met, Mr. Artemenko said.)

Before entering politics, Mr. Artemenko had business ventures in the Middle East and real estate deals in the Miami area, and had worked as an agent representing top Ukrainian athletes. Some colleagues in Parliament describe him as corrupt, untrustworthy or simply insignificant, but he appears to have amassed considerable wealth.

He has fashioned himself in the image of Mr. Trump, presenting himself as Ukraine’s answer to a rising class of nationalist leaders in the West. He even traveled to Cleveland last summer for the Republican National Convention, seizing on the chance to meet with members of Mr. Trump’s campaign.

Mr. Sater, a longtime business associate of Mr. Trump’s with connections in Russia, was willing to help Mr. Artemenko’s proposal reach the White House.

Mr. Trump has sought to distance himself from Mr. Sater in recent years. If Mr. Sater “were sitting in the room right now,” Mr. Trump said in a 2013 deposition, “I really wouldn’t know what he looked like.”

But Mr. Sater worked on real estate development deals with the Trump Organization on and off for at least a decade, even after his role in the stock manipulation scheme came to light.

Mr. Sater, who was born in the Soviet Union and grew up in New York, served as an executive at a firm called Bayrock Group, two floors below the Trump Organization in Trump Tower, and was later a senior adviser to Mr. Trump.

He said he had been working on a plan for a Trump Tower in Moscow with a Russian real estate developer as recently as the fall of 2015, one that he said had come to a halt because of Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign. (Mr. Cohen said the Trump Organization had received a letter of intent for a project in Moscow from a Russian real estate developer at that time but determined that the project was not feasible.)
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 19, 2017 17:21:10

Wikileaks randomly putting up anti-Sweden stuff today.

oh yeah, Ecuador may kick him out based on their upcoming election and he'd have to face those charges
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 19, 2017 17:25:37

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby 06hawkalum » Sun Feb 19, 2017 18:11:42

Monkeyboy wrote:Guys, we're not going to make it, are we?


Nah brah, we'll make it. 10 years from now we will look back at these threads and have a good laugh.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Roger Dorn » Sun Feb 19, 2017 18:19:06

@realDonaldTrump My statement as to what's happening in Sweden was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning immigrants & Sweden.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 19, 2017 18:22:29

They report rape differently in Sweden, thus the higher rates that they've had for a long time now.

This is so simple to understand but many either choose to not look further or choose to ignore it.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 19, 2017 18:24:07

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby jamiethekiller » Sun Feb 19, 2017 18:27:34

pacino wrote:Wikileaks randomly putting up anti-Sweden stuff today.

oh yeah, Ecuador may kick him out based on their upcoming election and he'd have to face those charges


Swedish intelligence a few months back had a report released that Russia is involving itself with their election. So not a surprise that Russian stooge assange is putting anti Sweden stuff out

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Youseff » Sun Feb 19, 2017 19:05:28

principled conservatives prove themselves over and over to be boot lickers

"Everything that he says about the president is colored by his own personal dispute he has got running with President Trump [over foreign policy]," Sen. Rand Paul tells This Week, "and it should be taken with a grain of salt because John McCain is the guy that has advocated for war everywhere. He would bankrupt the nation."
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby drsmooth » Sun Feb 19, 2017 19:14:03

Youseff wrote:principled conservatives prove themselves over and over to be boot lickers



I thought Paul was some form of libertarian

maybe just a librarian?
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Feb 19, 2017 19:25:27

drsmooth wrote:
Youseff wrote:principled conservatives prove themselves over and over to be boot lickers



I thought Paul was some form of libertarian

maybe just a librarian?



He's willing to take the hit to democracy if it means getting rid of a few departments.

Or maybe he has his own Russian connections and is worried they'll be discovered.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby CalvinBall » Sun Feb 19, 2017 21:45:37

This NYT piece on these new characters pushing a peace deal is something.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Feb 20, 2017 04:07:19

The holes are starting to fill in. Our president is literally working for the Russians. Don't know if they'll be able to prove it. Need a smoking gun yet.

With any luck at all, Trump will die in prison. Seriously, we could have a sitting president arrested for treason if the GOP congress gets off their asses and does something about what's going on.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Roger Dorn » Mon Feb 20, 2017 09:06:27

@crampell Trump team ordered CEA staff to backfill econ models so that they showed sustained 3-3.5% growth wsj.com/articles/trump… via @NickTimiraos
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Feb 20, 2017 09:06:37

Am I missing something or are Trump supporters cheering that toxic waste can now be dumped in streams?
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