Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Politics

Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Jan 18, 2017 01:23:04

Hosting a coworker tomorrow through Sat AM who is in town from Florida to celebrate Mr. Trump's inauguration.

Then Saturday hosting my brother's gf who is coming down for the big march.

#bipartisanship

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:31:32

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traderdave wrote:Oh God and half the time she spent in the room was to hear Republicans gushing over her and thanking her for accepting the nomination. Gimme a #$!&@ break.



well, her family DID cover a lot of the campaign bills for at least 5 of them

did they ever get to the extent of accountability required of MI's private charters? Because many people are saying basically not much has been required of them


MI was certainly discussed but not extensively, to my recollection. She did make very clear (at least to me) that she does not think that charters and traditional public schools need to play by the same rules. You just need to watch Tim Kaine's questioning to understand her position on accountability. As Pacino noted last night, her response was "I support accountability" when asked if she thought that all schools receiving federal funding should have to adhere to the same accountability standards.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:32:37

JH - You crack me up, but your instincts are good.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:34:12

he's already going back on his word about 'no new deals' or '30 cancelled deals' :

The Aberdeenshire Council is considering his application for a second 18-hole golf course and more housing in the Trump International Golf Links Scotland operation. The expansion would substantially grow the complex and include a 450-room five-star hotel, timeshare complex and private housing estate, The Guardian reported Saturday. Changes are expected to significantly boost the value of the operation to the Trump Organization.

Trump’s attorney Sheri Dillon announced at his press conference last week that in order to avoid potential conflicts of interest, her client has “ordered that all pending deals be terminated.” Trump is also arranging to turn over management of his companies to his adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, but will maintain ownership and investments in his American and global companies and real estate deals. It’s an arrangement that the head of the Office of Government Ethics said fails to meet an ethics standard met by every other president in the last four decades.

Trump owns 100 percent of the Trump International Golf Links Scotland, according to the Guardian.

A written statement later issued by Dillon’s law firm Morgan Lewis emphasized that Trump’s promise “prohibits — without exception — new foreign deals during the duration of President-elect Trump’s presidency.”

“Implementing future phasing of existing properties does not constitute a new transaction so we intend to proceed,” a spokeswoman told the Scottish Sunday Herald.

Richard Painter, a former White House chief ethics adviser to George W. Bush, called the situation a “perfect example” of obvious conflicts of interest that Trump will apparently continue to attempt to obfuscate.

“He’s using language which is ambiguous. It clearly illustrates that around the world, he will simply expand around the various holdings and as they continue to expand, the conflicts of interest expand,” Painter told the Guardian. “It’s like [the board game] Monopoly: if you have one house on Boardwalk, it’s not a new deal to go for three hotels on Boardwalk.”
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby The Savior » Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:42:53

Rubio voting no? Really? Cmonnnnnnn
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:46:47

Devos is the candidate that worries me most. She seems like she could be the most destructive, and she is so massively under-qualified/unqualified aside from her unnatural hatred of public education. I just do not see the end game in capsizing education. I have also seen the failings of some private schools as a parent. Where I do not have $50K per child per year for the prep schools, the other choices are what they are, but my evaluation is that they are not great, just specific to a cause.

I think that there are many places and many ways that it could be improved, but that is the goal, not gutting it. One of the US's great gifts is a public education. It is not an easy problem to solve, clearly, and the nation has made some missteps in trying to level the field to provide a superior education, but finding workable solutions on a gross scale is important. Questions like staffing low income, low desirable locations is not going away with a charter school. Who is going to teach the kids in Cross Fork, PA? (this is a joke because of Cross Fork's history)

My public school choices are very good/great, and multiple times better then what I grew up with so I can say that the largest issue with the county is that the teachers salaries are not adequate compared to the cost of living (so yes I would support a tax increase to properly compensate this key skill group / and no I am not an educator nor am I married to one).
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:49:10

it's hard for me to choose which is the worst nominee. they've given me so many choices.

the school board of my former high school formally opposed DeVos at their meeting last night. interesting stuff.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:55:54

the defense budget proposed by McCain looks like a goddamn joke; but college for all would've been too expensive!
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:17:21

any chance Devos just says :nah I am good"? Every clip I have seen of this thing is humiliating for her.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:19:18

CalvinBall wrote:any chance Devos just says :nah I am good"? Every clip I have seen of this thing is humiliating for her.
lol this is her life's dream and she's done being questioned. and no one's gonna care about SecEd after confirmation.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:21:02

love that she didnt know what IDA is and was confused if states should comply and what that means for federal dollars. good stuff!

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:26:35

i know there has been a lot of talk about no bench. at the end of bush's term, were there any star republicans that weren't old, establishment guys? genuinely asking. i cant remember. i mean, mccain was there nominee.

what i guess i am curious about, are benches and leaders grown in times of defense? over the past 8 years no one has really had to lead the party because the president was that person. there wasn't really room for many others. maybe we have talked about this too-- was just something i was contemplating this morning.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:33:00

Wikileaks is still pushing Pizzagate, btw
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:36:53

JUburton wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:any chance Devos just says :nah I am good"? Every clip I have seen of this thing is humiliating for her.
lol this is her life's dream and she's done being questioned. and no one's gonna care about SecEd after confirmation.


I think there is zero chance. I heard something this morning that indicated that her nomination is a 'done deal'. Horrifying.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:36:56

I also don't think Rubio will vote no in committee, but I could see him and Graham saying no to Tillerson in confirmation.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:42:46

display of power:
“Being a great president has to do with a lot of things, but one of them is being a great cheerleader for the country,” Trump said. “And we’re going to show the people as we build up our military, we’re going to display our military.

“That military may come marching down Pennsylvania Avenue. That military may be flying over New York City and Washington, D.C., for parades. I mean, we’re going to be showing our military,” he added.

“I think they have to feel it,” Trump acknowledged. “Being a cheerleader or a salesman for the country is very important, but you still have to produce the results.”

“Honestly, you haven’t seen anything yet. Wait till you see what happens, starting next Monday,” he said. “A lot of things are going to happen. Great things.”
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:43:40

CalvinBall wrote:i know there has been a lot of talk about no bench. at the end of bush's term, were there any star republicans that weren't old, establishment guys? genuinely asking. i cant remember. i mean, mccain was there nominee.

what i guess i am curious about, are benches and leaders grown in times of defense? over the past 8 years no one has really had to lead the party because the president was that person. there wasn't really room for many others. maybe we have talked about this too-- was just something i was contemplating this morning.

nowhere to go but up
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:44:45

there is a session beign run but some Philadelphia progressive group on how to run and get elected for local office. starts tonight at 630 if anyone is interested in going. i will be there. just DM me and we can meet up.

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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:45:57

traderdave wrote: You just need to watch Tim Kaine's questioning to understand her position on accountability. As Pacino noted last night, her response was "I support accountability" when asked if she thought that all schools receiving federal funding should have to adhere to the same accountability standards.


hmmm. So we ought to believe her testimony rather than the lying actual experience of MI's educational system. Well, why not

She can't tell Chris Murphy that as a mature adult human she can't find a reason herself to object to having firearms in schools. She's probably never heard of Sandy Hook. I can't find a reason myself to object to having her fed to a grizzly bear.
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Re: Celebrity President: Season 1 Premieres January 20: Poli

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Jan 18, 2017 09:49:21

drsmooth wrote:
traderdave wrote: You just need to watch Tim Kaine's questioning to understand her position on accountability. As Pacino noted last night, her response was "I support accountability" when asked if she thought that all schools receiving federal funding should have to adhere to the same accountability standards.


hmmm. So we ought to believe her testimony rather than the lying actual experience of MI's educational system. Well, why not

She can't tell Chris Murphy that as a mature adult human she can't find a reason herself to object to having firearms in schools. She's probably never heard of Sandy Hook. I can't find a reason myself to having her fed to a grizzly bear.


no. i think you are misreading here. dave is saying the testimony was bad. kaine was asking if she supported accountability and the same standard between all schools that receive federal dollars. she couldnt answer and would just say i support accountability-- which was basically avoiding the question.

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