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Unread postby phatj » Sat Feb 23, 2019 23:59:58

Bucky wrote:You guys are missing the point of Phat's question. What *IF* we had zero carbon emissions today and the part of the planet's lifecycle is now at the other end of the swing from the ice age? Is there anything people could do? OK, the 'solar shield' part of one answer is in line with the question.

Exactly.

I keep coming back to the idea that to meaningfully alter the global climate is going to require power on a massive scale, no matter the cause of climate change. Even if we were able to eliminate all sources of human carbon emissions tomorrow we still would need to reduce atmospheric carbon to slow or stop climate change that's already happening. Even the most "organic" of methods (reforestation) would require a ton of power.

I don't see how we get out of this without nuclear energy. Hopefully there's a breakthrough in fusion soon.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 04:30:38

phatj wrote:
Bucky wrote:You guys are missing the point of Phat's question. What *IF* we had zero carbon emissions today and the part of the planet's lifecycle is now at the other end of the swing from the ice age? Is there anything people could do? OK, the 'solar shield' part of one answer is in line with the question.

Exactly.

I keep coming back to the idea that to meaningfully alter the global climate is going to require power on a massive scale, no matter the cause of climate change. Even if we were able to eliminate all sources of human carbon emissions tomorrow we still would need to reduce atmospheric carbon to slow or stop climate change that's already happening. Even the most "organic" of methods (reforestation) would require a ton of power.

I don't see how we get out of this without nuclear energy. Hopefully there's a breakthrough in fusion soon.



I understood the question and tried to answer it. The best way to lower temperature is to capture carbon. I also mentioned a solar shield and introducing sulfur into the upper atmosphere (kinda like a volcanic winter). All three of those things would lower global temperatures, regardless of the cause of rising temperatures. There are other ways to capture carbon, but most of them do require lots of energy, as you stated. I agree fusion is the answer and I think it's coming fairly soon. The Germans have had a few breakthroughs. Lots of countries are working on it. I'm optimistic about that end of it, but I'm less optimistic that our corporate culture won't block the use of fusion early until fossil fuels are on their death bed. There's just too much money in it.

Someone mentioned methane. Methane is produced in the guts of some animals as bacteria break down cellulose. One thing that would help is the use of seaweed diets for these animals. One type of red algae reduces methane production by 99% and increases milk and meat production (methane is waste, so the algae basically improves efficiency and reduces waste). I think the research is only about half complete, but most seaweed type reduce methane production, just not as much as the red algae.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:12:58

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Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:46:02

Uncle Milty wrote:If fusion really coming soon? Like tomorrow it's always a day away.



I should be careful saying "fairly soon" because people have different definitions of soon. I think it will be soon enough to help with the energy crisis, but not any time in the next 10-15 years. Even once they find a way to produce the needed temperatures, they still have to find a way to safely convert that to reliable energy production.

Here is a link to the german experiments I was talking about.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/scienc ... r-reactor/
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:32:14

Venture capital is finally flowing to fusion.

They think that advances in computers and superconductors are NOW worth the investment.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:06:52

Cahnce to see Northern Lights in this area this weekend?

Also known as the aurora borealis, the Northern Lights are typically visible in the far northern United States, in Canada, Alaska and other places well north of the Garden State. However, a large solar flare on March 20 triggered a fairly intense geomagnetic storm that is expected to reach our planet this weekend, so some of the colorful lights may be seen in places that normally don’t get a good view.

How far south the lights will be visible is still uncertain, but it is possible sky watchers in northern New Jersey and upstate New York could catch a glimpse, said Patrick O’Hara, a meteorologist at the National Weather Service’s regional office in New Jersey.





So, probably not, but it gives me a chance to dwell on my adolescent crush with Annie Haslam.


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Unread postby thephan » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:35:34

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sun Apr 07, 2019 13:12:45

Pretty cool stuff.

Japan Drops Plastic Explosives Onto An Asteroid

Early Friday morning, Japan's Hayabusa2 spacecraft detonated an explosive device over a small asteroid. The goal was to create a fresh crater that will later be studied by the spacecraft.

Researchers watched from mission control in Sagamihara, Japan, and clapped politely as Hayabusa2 released an experiment known as the Small Carry-on Impactor. The device consisted of a copper disk packed with HMX high-explosive. Once the mothership had safely moved out of the line of fire, the impactor apparently detonated, firing the disk into the side of the asteroid...

In a few weeks, after the dust has settled, the little spacecraft will survey the blast site to see what lies beneath. It may even land a second time to collect subsurface samples.

The spacecraft is scheduled to leave Ryugu later this year, carrying its samples back to scientists here on Earth. On the return, it will eject a pod containing dust from Ryugu that is expected to land in Australia's Outback.
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Unread postby Bucky » Sun Apr 07, 2019 13:14:06

and we wonder why aliens hate us

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Unread postby my cousin mose » Sun Apr 07, 2019 13:31:59

Right? Outback is terrible
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Unread postby Monkeyboy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 07:38:03

It's a pretty incredible and ambitious mission. For once, it makes me proud to be human.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Slowhand » Wed Apr 10, 2019 21:49:03

How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Unread postby swishnicholson » Wed Apr 10, 2019 23:03:40

What kind of potato did they use to take that picture?
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Unread postby Napalm » Wed Apr 10, 2019 23:12:50

that thing is stunning. And even looking at it, it still remains a mystery. Pretty giant deal for sure but people cant even begin to comprehend it

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Slowhand » Wed Apr 10, 2019 23:13:04

swishnicholson wrote:What kind of potato did they use to take that picture?


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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Apr 11, 2019 09:38:15



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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Napalm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 09:50:59

Most news outlets are only showing the blurry zoomed in picture of the black hole so I'm posting the entire zoomed-out image of the black hole and everything it is consuming. The tiny black spec in this image is 6.5 billion times the size of our sun. This thing is HUGE.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:01:05

that picture is 55 million years old

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:02:48

cameras didnt even exist 55 million years ago

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Napalm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:04:35

jamiethekiller wrote:that picture is 55 million years old

hungry hungry black-holes

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