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Unread postby SK790 » Sun Oct 11, 2015 04:52:16

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby z ipper » Sun Oct 11, 2015 07:51:42

still plenty there imo

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:58:24

Keep your eyes on KIC 8462852. Kepler data shows something periodically occluding up to 22% of the star's light. That's the kind of anomaly that will likely reveal the existence of a new unknown natural structure (like the radio telescope anomalies that brought the discovery of pulsars) or could even be signs of construction of a Dyson sphere (no one can tell the crazies 'No' yet at least).
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby SK790 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:14:54

WheelsFellOff wrote:Keep your eyes on KIC 8462852. Kepler data shows something periodically occluding up to 22% of the star's light. That's the kind of anomaly that will likely reveal the existence of a new unknown natural structure (like the radio telescope anomalies that brought the discovery of pulsars) or could even be signs of construction of a Dyson sphere (no one can tell the crazies 'No' yet at least).

this is cool to read about, but space.com's website is bad and barely works on a PC and crashed my phone's browser in about 5 seconds

http://www.space.com/30855-alien-life-s ... cture.html
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:37:14

great. a dyson sphere. Will probably work just about as good as a generic sphere but at 3x the cost

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:58:33

Laugh it up Buckminster
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Oct 20, 2015 13:34:29

i call mine not spheres but BALLS

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Soren » Tue Oct 20, 2015 14:12:46

colloquial perhaps but certainly it isn't inaccurate.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Tue Oct 20, 2015 15:29:01

If it "only" periodically occludes 22% of the star's light, it's not a Dyson sphere. Unless the sphere is mostly transparent. It might however be a Ringworld. But the orbit of a ringworld (at least one like Larry Niven imagined) is unstable.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Soren » Tue Oct 20, 2015 15:40:58

It's Halo.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Oct 20, 2015 16:04:54

TenuredVulture wrote:If it "only" periodically occludes 22% of the star's light, it's not a Dyson sphere. Unless the sphere is mostly transparent. It might however be a Ringworld. But the orbit of a ringworld (at least one like Larry Niven imagined) is unstable.
I don't work for Kepler, but I'd imagine a ring crossing the face would give a different signature as it would bisect the star. Intelligent life isn't the leading theory of course, the sphere talk was that it might be one under construction and there wasn't anything readily visible in the data to rule it out.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Tue Oct 20, 2015 16:16:52

Why would anyone need over 100 quadrillion square miles?
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Oct 20, 2015 16:23:10

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Tue Oct 20, 2015 16:49:05

But think about it--assume no real limits to technology--first, you make do with your home planet. Next, you'd either build space stations, mining asteroids for raw materials and such, or maybe colonize those asteroids and nearby planets. Probably both, in whatever order seems easiest. Then, maybe, you build a ringworld. Only after all that's done do you really need a Dyson sphere. I think the existence of such a sphere though is evidence that interstellar travel is impossible--a civilization advanced enough to build such a thing would have likely developed the capacity for interstellar travel first, thus obviating the need for the Dyson sphere in the first place.

Unless...a civilization has in fact already build lots of Dyson spheres all over the galaxy and this is just the latest one. Just in terms of the land area such a civilization has built and likely occupies blows my mind.

This is what we should be looking at, not developing stupid apps for our phones.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Oct 20, 2015 17:26:53

Don't think of them as landmass, think of them as energy collection. That is the thing that technology can't always obviate .
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Slowhand » Tue Oct 20, 2015 17:43:55

None of you have any clue what you're talking about.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Tue Oct 20, 2015 17:45:52

Fine Mr. Dyson sphere engineer. Explain it to us.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Oct 20, 2015 17:49:26

I wish I had a Dyson sphere. Only a few of you guys would be invited, even if it was a quadrillion miles across.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Slowhand » Tue Oct 20, 2015 17:58:44

You couldn't handle your own Dyson sphere
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Oct 20, 2015 18:51:34

I know my Kardashev scale, bro.
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