The Savior wrote:Hearing that Macdonald is gonna start over those guys

The Athletic had a section saying they think MacDonald will stay up and if anyone gets sent down it will be Manning.

Is there a chance Sanheim beats out Hagg?

Titlehungry wrote:Is there a chance Sanheim beats out Hagg?

The article said if they play well in preseason Sanheim could beat out Hagg, but right now he is behind him.

Up 2-0, lost 3-2 in OT

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Hextall hired Dean Lombardi because of course he did

Can he bring Sutter with him?

From The Hockey News (Sept 13):

BURNING QUESTION:
What should the expectations be on Nolan Patrick?
He was touted as a potential No. 1 overall pick, but slid to the Flyers when New Jersey opted for the dynamic Nico Hischier instead. Patrick’s size, scoring punch and responsible two-way game make him an alluring prospect, but his development was derailed by injuries the past year and a half. Because he is a late birthday, some of that might be mitigated, but getting him up to speed is a concern. The maladies went from unfortunate to farcical at Flyers rookie camp when Patrick came down with an abscess on his face, but with the main camp here, the youngster was pretty much ready to go. He has recovered from his June 13 hernia surgery and obviously wants to make his mark.

Now, keep in mind, the Flyers have a nice stable of forwards already: Patrick does not have to be a world-saver and he can count on veterans Claude Giroux and Sean Couturier to do most of the heavy lifting at center for now. If the Flyers ease Patrick into the NHL, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, even if it limits his chances at a Calder.

BEST-CASE SCENARIO:
The Flyers were the biggest winners in the draft lottery, jumping 11 teams to snag the second overall pick, which they used on center Patrick. Given that he’ll be 19 once the season begins, there’s no reason to doubt Patrick can make an impact right away, especially since he can be sheltered by Giroux and Couturier. With that kind of talent down the middle and wingers such as Jakub Voracek and Wayne Simmonds, Philadelphia has the firepower to keep up in the Metro. Heck, with Travis Konecny and Oskar Lindblom still on the rise, Philly could have quite the forward group.

The defense looks even more promising. Shayne Gostisbehere and Ivan Provorov have already arrived, and there’s plenty more youth coming. Take your pick from Travis Sanheim, Philippe Myers, Samuel Morin and Robert Hagg. Only a couple can make it, but the internal competition will be fantastic. In net, Brian Elliott enters into a perfect situation, as the veteran has always been better when he’s got something to prove. He’ll share the crease with Michal Neuvirth. All told, this is a playoff-caliber team.

WORST-CASE SCENARIO:
Why must it always be goaltending in Philadelphia? Elliott is coming off a sour note in Calgary, where he was pretty much responsible for the Flames getting swept by Anaheim in the first round of the playoffs. Is Philly really the right atmosphere for a dented goalie to get his confidence back? Neuvirth is a 1B netminder at best, and that’s why the Flyers have been on the NHL margins for the past few years.
Up front, the Flyers will miss Brayden Schenn (traded for Jori Lehtera), and Patrick has already been through the ringer when it comes to injuries. On top of two abdominal surgeries in his young career, he somehow got an infection on his face during rookie camp. The omens around this kid are dark. Should he fail to find consistent health, he’d probably be better back in junior. While that’s not horrible for his long-term outlook, it would hurt the team’s depth. Even with their impressive defense corps, it will only take a few things to go slightly wrong for the Flyers to miss the playoffs again in a tough division. That would be tough pill to swallow as their top forwards start to age out of their primes.

THN's PREDICTION:
6th in Metropolitan. The Flyers will be in the playoff hunt, but most likely miss in a deep Metropolitan Division. Goaltending will still be an issue and probably the team’s undoing in the end.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/artic ... hia-flyers

I know one person that won't be missing Brayden Schenn!

traderdave wrote:From The Hockey News (Sept 13):

BURNING QUESTION:
What should the expectations be on Nolan Patrick?
He was touted as a potential No. 1 overall pick, but slid to the Flyers when New Jersey opted for the dynamic Nico Hischier instead. Patrick’s size, scoring punch and responsible two-way game make him an alluring prospect, but his development was derailed by injuries the past year and a half. Because he is a late birthday, some of that might be mitigated, but getting him up to speed is a concern. The maladies went from unfortunate to farcical at Flyers rookie camp when Patrick came down with an abscess on his face, but with the main camp here, the youngster was pretty much ready to go. He has recovered from his June 13 hernia surgery and obviously wants to make his mark.

Now, keep in mind, the Flyers have a nice stable of forwards already: Patrick does not have to be a world-saver and he can count on veterans Claude Giroux and Sean Couturier to do most of the heavy lifting at center for now. If the Flyers ease Patrick into the NHL, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, even if it limits his chances at a Calder.

BEST-CASE SCENARIO:
The Flyers were the biggest winners in the draft lottery, jumping 11 teams to snag the second overall pick, which they used on center Patrick. Given that he’ll be 19 once the season begins, there’s no reason to doubt Patrick can make an impact right away, especially since he can be sheltered by Giroux and Couturier. With that kind of talent down the middle and wingers such as Jakub Voracek and Wayne Simmonds, Philadelphia has the firepower to keep up in the Metro. Heck, with Travis Konecny and Oskar Lindblom still on the rise, Philly could have quite the forward group.

The defense looks even more promising. Shayne Gostisbehere and Ivan Provorov have already arrived, and there’s plenty more youth coming. Take your pick from Travis Sanheim, Philippe Myers, Samuel Morin and Robert Hagg. Only a couple can make it, but the internal competition will be fantastic. In net, Brian Elliott enters into a perfect situation, as the veteran has always been better when he’s got something to prove. He’ll share the crease with Michal Neuvirth. All told, this is a playoff-caliber team.

WORST-CASE SCENARIO:
Why must it always be goaltending in Philadelphia? Elliott is coming off a sour note in Calgary, where he was pretty much responsible for the Flames getting swept by Anaheim in the first round of the playoffs. Is Philly really the right atmosphere for a dented goalie to get his confidence back? Neuvirth is a 1B netminder at best, and that’s why the Flyers have been on the NHL margins for the past few years.
Up front, the Flyers will miss Brayden Schenn (traded for Jori Lehtera), and Patrick has already been through the ringer when it comes to injuries. On top of two abdominal surgeries in his young career, he somehow got an infection on his face during rookie camp. The omens around this kid are dark. Should he fail to find consistent health, he’d probably be better back in junior. While that’s not horrible for his long-term outlook, it would hurt the team’s depth. Even with their impressive defense corps, it will only take a few things to go slightly wrong for the Flyers to miss the playoffs again in a tough division. That would be tough pill to swallow as their top forwards start to age out of their primes.

THN's PREDICTION:
6th in Metropolitan. The Flyers will be in the playoff hunt, but most likely miss in a deep Metropolitan Division. Goaltending will still be an issue and probably the team’s undoing in the end.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/artic ... hia-flyers

Sean Couturier stinks.

I wonder how safe Hakstol's job is if they finish 6th in the Metro and miss the playoffs.

heyeaglefn wrote:I wonder how safe Hakstol's job is if they finish 6th in the Metro and miss the playoffs.

i'm all for out of the box hires but he certainly seems to be as pedestrian as they come.

ReadingPhilly wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:I wonder how safe Hakstol's job is if they finish 6th in the Metro and miss the playoffs.

i'm all for out of the box hires but he certainly seems to be as pedestrian as they come.

Hextall is taking things super slow but I can't imagine a sixth place finish in division and missing the playoffs will please him but who knows.

The division is a killer too... you have four teams in front of you in Pittsburgh, Washington, Columbus, and NYR who can conceivably win the cup... Canes are getting better, Devils have Hischier and Hall amongst others and who knows with the Islanders... hopefully Washington losing so much in Alzner, Shattenkirk, Williams, Schmidt, etc brings them back a bit... maybe the Rangers fade some... it's a hard task for the Flyers to make the playoffs with such a young team... sorta the opposite of the Sixers who might make it before they are ready due to the mediocrity of their conference

Yeah, given the Flyers division, I think it would depend on HOW they missed the playoffs (if they were to actually miss them). I think we can all agree that a 70-point season with no playoffs and a 95-point season with no playoffs are two different situations.

They have a lot of young talent but you still have guys like Giroux (29, 30 in January), Simmonds (29), Voracek (28) plus the older goaltending situation as well.

Maybe the Giroux trade rumors actually happen and they try to go with pretty much all young guys.

heyeaglefn wrote:They have a lot of young talent but you still have guys like Giroux (29, 30 in January), Simmonds (29), Voracek (28) plus the older goaltending situation as well.

Maybe the Giroux trade rumors actually happen and they try to go with pretty much all young guys.

Unless Giroux bounces back, we are probably headed that way... I guess we can continue to add offense... defense should be good in the future and hopefully goaltending with Hart and/or Sandstrom

They've been in salary cap hell the past few seasons, a quick look back at the last two years had them up against the cap and actually over it. This is the first year they have actual cap room going into the season. Agree with the sentiment that Hak hasn't been anything special, but feel like he might get a bit of a longer leash since they've pretty much been unable to do anything in FA because of the cap situation

Tough, but fair. I'll allow it.

I feel like it wasn't that long ago that I watched hockey and the entire ice wasn't covered with advertisements. . I would think sometimes it would obscure the puck.

I don't have it on, but the game is at the phantoms arena in Allentown, maybe they have more ads than an NHL rink?

Bill McNeal wrote:I don't have it on, but the game is at the phantoms arena in Allentown, maybe they have more ads than an NHL rink?

Ah, that's probably it. I'm sure those guys need as many bucks as they can. Better than this, anyway, thoguh not much: