Orange is the new whack (politics)

Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby pacino » Sat Oct 15, 2016 08:22:41

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby td11 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 08:53:34

Republican leaders need to reassure voters that this rigged election stuff is nonsense
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby pacino » Sat Oct 15, 2016 08:54:00

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Soren » Sat Oct 15, 2016 09:11:31

Saw a non parody article comparing Trump to the biblical Samson.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Oct 15, 2016 09:27:06

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
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jerseyhoya wrote:I was scrolling through PPP's Florida crosstabs just now - because what else would you be doing on a Friday night - and in the full ballot Trump is +20 with whites, -38 with Hispanics, -81 with his African Americans. Little Marco is just +19 with whites, but +11 with Hispanics and -72 with blacks. He's running a net 49 effing points better than that shitstain with Hispanics. As a result is ahead by 6 rather than down by 4. And we could've nominated him. Instead chose to go with someone who says or does what would be in a normal year the single most embarrassing or controversial thing a candidate does on a near daily basis. Time for a drink.

So why did he lose Florida in the primaries?

It likely has something to do with the fact that elections with 5 Republican candidates running against each other with 2 million voters participating are different than ones with a Republican running against a Democrat with 9 million voters

That's my point, your base won't look to elect diversity that would help in a general

They don't need to look to elect diversity (although the base has certainly shown a willingness for doing just that eg: Florida Senate primary 2010), just pick someone who can win. This year the two candidates best positioned for the general were Rubio and Kasich, the latter is as boring of a white Christian male as you'll ever see. In the primaries that had exit polls an unusually low portion of GOP primary voters picked a candidate who can win in November as their biggest factor in their vote compared to past years. Maybe after Trump gets his clock cleaned and 8 years of Dem presidencies becomes 12, that will be different next time. It took the Democrats three tries to figure it out in the 1980s/early 1990s, sometimes you need to really get whacked in the face to wake up.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Bucky » Sat Oct 15, 2016 09:35:16

i wonder how bernie would have done against the non-trump R candidates. we'd probably see that electorate map solid blue right now if we'd gone with him instead of HRC.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Sat Oct 15, 2016 09:47:33

Bucky wrote:i wonder how bernie would have done against the non-trump R candidates. we'd probably see that electorate map solid blue right now if we'd gone with him instead of HRC.


I don't know. There was never a real solid attack against him, so who knows what an actual R candidate would have dug up.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby wwry » Sat Oct 15, 2016 09:51:45

i'm biased so i'll say he would do well and usher in an era of USA brand socialism. but it's always given me pause to think how hard the inevitable communist stuff that would get thrown at him would stick in the eyes of the public. he might have also had a gary johnson "aleppo" moment because he's not in to foreign policy.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby pacino » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:16:06

in Lou Barletta country, it's about economic anxiety:

“I don’t care for this town no more because of the Hispanics,” said Lewis Beishline, 70, as he sat drinking at 11 a.m. on a Friday at Cusat’s Cafe, a bar owned by the mayor of Hazleton, who lives upstairs. Mr. Beishline, a retired welder, said he moved from Hazleton to a nearby town last year because he no longer felt safe.

He plans to vote for Mr. Trump, he said, “because of the immigration.”

The Hispanic community, meanwhile, is eager to establish its own political power in the face of what many describe as persistent and painful discrimination. Community leaders in this city of 25,000 say they have registered more than 800 Hispanic voters in recent months, expanding the voting rolls by almost 10 percent.

if you click on the first link I provided, you can see that Trump didn't build it, he simply noticed it and, like a good con man, capitalized on it.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:19:03

I wonder how many pollsters in places like AZ, FL, TX, even GA and NC have interviewers who can conduct the polls in Spanish. I'd guess the major pollsters do, but how many of the pollsters on the cheap do this?
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:17:27

td11 wrote:Republican leaders need to reassure voters that this rigged election stuff is nonsense


I never even thought of this but it's so right and so obvious.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Bucky » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:34:22

but them saying it's not rigged only proves that it is!

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby The B1G Piece » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:34:22

td11 wrote:Republican leaders need to reassure voters that this rigged election stuff is nonsense

Yes, makes me very comfortable that Republican nominee is crying like a child the election is rigged three weeks before the majority of the votes are cast.

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:50:10

so Pence never gave us the solid evidence he promised was coming that would refute drumpf's accusers. Ineffective!
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby WheelsFellOff » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:52:33

To be fair, he didn't have any.
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Bucky » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:02:33

doesn't matter that he didn't show us, as long as everyone knows he has it

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:07:24

Bucky wrote:doesn't matter that he didn't show us, as long as everyone knows he has it


dunno whether he has it, but I feel like he's had it
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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:35:06

has this daily barrage of Podesta emails made any dent in hillary's numbers? If not DIAF anyway Assange
I would rather see you lose than win myself

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Re: Orange is the new whack (politics)

Postby Youseff » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:47:02

td11 wrote:Republican leaders need to reassure voters that this rigged election stuff is nonsense


yeah, they will not do that.
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