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Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Aug 09, 2010 21:18:31

I always figured the logic of units--days, months, years was the reason for doing it the European way. Like hours, minutes, seconds.

I have no idea how it impacts data processing. I do know SPSS has all that stuff automated.

I really do wish we'd convert to the metric system though.
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Postby djbigf » Mon Aug 09, 2010 21:31:23

TenuredVulture wrote:I really do wish we'd convert to the metric system though.

being in science, i'm already on it at work
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Postby my cousin mose » Mon Aug 09, 2010 21:35:54

back off, man. i'm a scientist
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Postby drsmooth » Mon Aug 09, 2010 21:37:32

djbigf wrote:
VoxOrion wrote:You know what? I hate the non American way of doing dates. I'm sorry but 25/12/10 (little endian) is not superior to 12/25/10 (middle endian). If it is, show me how you sort that bitch in any meaningful way.

i'm with you - i'm in the pharma industry and they make us do it that way b/c our data could be reviewed by EU regulatory agencies for new drug applications, and i hate it.


I could see this being a problem if it were the 90s, but why not simply add fields to accomodate 2 different date displays? You don't have to duplicate entries - just have one field display the "euro" (or conversely the Yank) version.
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Postby djbigf » Mon Aug 09, 2010 21:40:09

my cousin mose wrote:back off, man. i'm a scientist

please don't blind us
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Postby djbigf » Mon Aug 09, 2010 21:41:12

drsmooth wrote:
djbigf wrote:
VoxOrion wrote:You know what? I hate the non American way of doing dates. I'm sorry but 25/12/10 (little endian) is not superior to 12/25/10 (middle endian). If it is, show me how you sort that bitch in any meaningful way.

i'm with you - i'm in the pharma industry and they make us do it that way b/c our data could be reviewed by EU regulatory agencies for new drug applications, and i hate it.


I could see this being a problem if it were the 90s, but why not simply add fields to accomodate 2 different date displays? You don't have to duplicate entries - just have one field display the "euro" (or conversely the Yank) version.

the problem w/ this is that some data is still handwritten, so there has to be a single standard.
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Postby phatj » Mon Aug 09, 2010 21:47:56

TenuredVulture wrote:I always figured the logic of units--days, months, years was the reason for doing it the European way. Like hours, minutes, seconds.

Of course, days-months-years is opposite order from hours-minutes-seconds. Most logical is CCYY-MM-DD.
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Postby Fusilli Jerry » Mon Aug 09, 2010 23:09:57

I want to be friends with this guy:

After a dispute with a passenger who stood to fetch his luggage too soon on a full flight just in from Pittsburgh, Mr. Slater, 38 and a career flight attendant, got on the public-address intercom and let loose a string of invective.

Then, the authorities said, he pulled the lever that activates the emergency-evacuation chute and slid down, making a dramatic exit not only from the plane but, one imagines, also from his airline career.

On his way out the door, he paused to grab a beer from the beverage cart.


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Postby Barry Jive » Mon Aug 09, 2010 23:13:18

my cousin mose wrote:back off, man. i'm a scientist


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Postby Wolfgang622 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 00:38:03

phatj wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I always figured the logic of units--days, months, years was the reason for doing it the European way. Like hours, minutes, seconds.

Of course, days-months-years is opposite order from hours-minutes-seconds. Most logical is CCYY-MM-DD.


It's more grammatical to do it the European way. Compare this:

Today is the twenty-fifth day of June.

To this:

Today is June twenty-fifth.

In the first example, we have a predicate nominative (day), modified by the ordinal adjective twenty-fifth. "of June" gives us more information about the day in a proper use of the genitive.

In the second example, only "June" is a noun, so it is the predicative nominative. That means we have a false equivalency: "Today" is "June" - but today can't be a month, as an "inch" can't be a "yard." Twenty-fifth should be an adjective, here modifying "June," but the basic premise of the sentence - today is June - is illogical. One might contend that "June 25th" should be taken as a "compound noun" of sorts, but English doesn't really do that; it's a lazy construction.

There's my best defense of the European dating system. Decide whether or not even I buy it.
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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Aug 10, 2010 00:41:08

the majority of the time i write the date like "10 August 2010"... my english teacher in 12th grade made us do it that way and i havent changed since.

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Postby lethal » Tue Aug 10, 2010 00:44:17

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I agree with this. I moved from SF to NYC 8 years ago and I want to move back all the time.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 10, 2010 01:09:41

I need to figure out how to convince my mom to pay for my brother and me to go to USA Brazil tomorrow. Maybe I should tell her it's an early bday present. Spent too much at the wedding this weekend and need to buy a car in the next week or so, throwing a wrench into my plans of seeing the USMNT/new palace.

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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Tue Aug 10, 2010 01:51:04

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Postby ashton » Tue Aug 10, 2010 01:59:10

I was surfing northeast Zambia on Google Earth ('cause that's the way I roll) and I noticed that the landscape appears to be covered in pola dots. Go thhe area around 9 or 10 degrees south and 31 or 32 degrees west and tell me what the polka dots are.

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Postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Aug 10, 2010 02:00:21

jerseyhoya wrote:I need to figure out how to convince my mom to pay for my brother and me to go to USA Brazil tomorrow. Maybe I should tell her it's an early bday present. Spent too much at the wedding this weekend and need to buy a car in the next week or so, throwing a wrench into my plans of seeing the USMNT/new palace.


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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 10, 2010 02:06:17

I mean the first 240 USMNT Google results are about our national soccer team, and it's among the more recognizable acronyms in the sporting world, but yeah.

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Postby djbigf » Tue Aug 10, 2010 07:14:15

Fusilli Jerry wrote:I want to be friends with this guy:

After a dispute with a passenger who stood to fetch his luggage too soon on a full flight just in from Pittsburgh, Mr. Slater, 38 and a career flight attendant, got on the public-address intercom and let loose a string of invective.

Then, the authorities said, he pulled the lever that activates the emergency-evacuation chute and slid down, making a dramatic exit not only from the plane but, one imagines, also from his airline career.

On his way out the door, he paused to grab a beer from the beverage cart.


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judging from that photo, he was probably more interested in sitting on the can on the ride home than having a cold one...
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Postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Aug 10, 2010 08:52:20

jerseyhoya wrote:I mean the first 240 USMNT Google results are about our national soccer team, and it's among the more recognizable acronyms in the sporting world, but yeah.


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Postby jeff2sf » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:01:50

jerseyhoya wrote:I need to figure out how to convince my mom to pay for my brother and me to go to USA Brazil tomorrow. Maybe I should tell her it's an early bday present. Spent too much at the wedding this weekend and need to buy a car in the next week or so, throwing a wrench into my plans of seeing the USMNT/new palace.


Given how poor you're about to be, I'd hold off and get a better birthday gift. This is a friendly, Brazil didn't bring their best side and we're going to learn nothing about the US because the team isn't particularly young or new. So Edson Buddle or Steve Cherundolo has a big game, yawn they're not going to be around next cycle.

I mean, Giants tix, Phils playoff tix, etc. - these should be what you spend your mom's money on.
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