Is There A BETTER Day to Start the New Politics Thread?

Postby drsmooth » Fri Apr 16, 2010 05:42:21

Crist going indie?

Pass the popcorn....
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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Apr 16, 2010 07:11:07

Life's a bitch for the Mittster.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Apr 16, 2010 08:55:37

I'm almost always wrong about these things, but I suppose even a broken clock is right twice a day--I've been saying Mitt is unelectable for 2 years now. Why anyone thought otherwise is a mystery. And I don't even think the Mormon thing is that big a deal.
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Postby Woody » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:18:53

pacinobait wrote: This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.

At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.

After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department.

I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right.


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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:25:19

Bobby Jindal's fundraiser appears to have gotten beaten up and hospitalized because she works for a Republican. I blame Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

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Postby Gomes » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:28:33

Except there's no real clue as to who the assailants were, just people opposed to Jindal.

But your comment is worthy of Beck and Limbaugh.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:36:38

What does that even mean?

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Postby Gomes » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:38:19

Re-reading it, I have no clue.

It's the result of being brain dead after looking at thousands of documents in a 4 hour period.

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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:02:07

TenuredVulture wrote:I'm almost always wrong about these things, but I suppose even a broken clock is right twice a day--I've been saying Mitt is unelectable for 2 years now. Why anyone thought otherwise is a mystery. And I don't even think the Mormon thing is that big a deal.

It's the name... a word more associated with a baseball glove.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Apr 16, 2010 13:26:43

Are some states driving people out with high state taxes?

Among the millions of Americans paying taxes this week more than a few of them probably feel like hiring a moving van.

That's because what state they live in can have a big impact on they total tax bill. Some states, like California and New Jersey, have income taxes with top rates above 10 percent. Others charge no income tax at all.

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Postby The Nightman Cometh » Fri Apr 16, 2010 14:21:11

Oh how I wish I could be paid to point out the obvious.
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Postby Woody » Fri Apr 16, 2010 14:25:54

That's called consulting
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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Apr 16, 2010 14:32:01

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Oh how I wish I could be paid to point out the obvious.


Is that in response to the CSM article?

Please do

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Postby The Nightman Cometh » Fri Apr 16, 2010 14:45:16

Huh? He's pointing out the obvious that's all I was saying.

Plus I don't care that people are leaving the most over populated piece of land in North America. It's good for them and if the migration continues there's an argument that it's good for the people who stay in NJ in the long run. Keep em flowing on out.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Apr 16, 2010 14:49:19

It's almost never good when people move out of a region. Depopulation is every bit the problem that overpopulation is. But it's not clear that in the case of NJ that taxation is a leading cause.It might be, but so might housing costs or commuting times. Same with California. In Louisiana, it's Katrina and long standing historical trends. Many cities in Florida are losing population, and Florida, I believe, has no income tax.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Apr 16, 2010 14:55:19

Florida is projected to gain a seat in reapportionment, isn't it?

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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Apr 16, 2010 15:04:34

jerseyhoya wrote:Florida is projected to gain a seat in reapportionment, isn't it?


My conclusion is based on the highly distressed real estate market in the Sunshine state. What that probably really reflects isn't so much a loss in population but a lower than expected growth. Reapportionment reflects long term trends, not recent shifts, which is what I thought you were talking about earlier.

Again, I noted somewhere else awhile ago--NJ, for one, is probably at its tax limit, and it strike me as bizarre that a wealth state with high taxes struggles so much to balance its budge while poor states manage to do ok. Obviously, NJ's problems are a function of long term policy choices. Florio did his best to address some of them, but I guess his mistake was going at it too soon.
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Postby allentown » Fri Apr 16, 2010 15:05:28

VoxOrion wrote:It's almost as silly a position as spending money you don't even have. Almost.

Wasn't that the Republican mantra for the 8 years they were in power. They spoke of the Clinton surplus as if it was a dirty thing 'why is the government taking more of your money than it needs?'. Those were record deficits in good times. Didn't hear many conservative complaints back in those days. Now spending to short-circuit a depression is suddenly a horrible thing to do in the eyes of these Republican spendthrifts. Gotta make sure every i is dotted and every t crossed on the Obama admin. calculation that healthcare reform is paid for, after making zero attempt to pay for their own prescription drug coverage for seniors. Now THAT is what I call silly, not to mention extemely hypocritical.
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Postby allentown » Fri Apr 16, 2010 15:07:25

jerseyhoya wrote:Are some states driving people out with high state taxes?

Among the millions of Americans paying taxes this week more than a few of them probably feel like hiring a moving van.

That's because what state they live in can have a big impact on they total tax bill. Some states, like California and New Jersey, have income taxes with top rates above 10 percent. Others charge no income tax at all.

PA is underrated for retirement. No taxes on pensions or IRA/401K withdrawals.
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Postby allentown » Fri Apr 16, 2010 15:09:11

jerseyhoya wrote:
phdave wrote:


I'm sure we are not the only ones who felt the need to point out that quote. It's begging to be underlined, highlighted, copied and pasted, retweeted, etc.


No plan for reducing federal spending would include cutting a 62 year old person's Social Security. It's a stupid question because it has no basis in reality.

Anyhow liberals are happy to raise taxes on other people. Conservatives want to cut spending that doesn't effect them.

Holy $#@! people are selfish hypocrites! Retweet it!

Actually, one of the problems with social security is that we pay it out to 62-year olds. The full-retirement benefit age increaased, the partial did not.
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