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Sarah Palin: Great VP pick, or the greatest VP Pick?

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Postby jamiethekiller » Fri Sep 12, 2008 00:49:05

what did you guys think of Palins interview tonight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ALsjhDDdaA


i like how she didn't know what the bush doctrine is or how she didn't want to give any straight answers to any questions.

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Postby Laexile » Fri Sep 12, 2008 02:08:38

I thought the interview was awful. Palin gave talking points and Gibson didn't press her. Contrast that with O'Reilly v. Obama. There was nothing to convince America that she was ready to lead. She tried way too hard to convince America she isn't a religious zealot, although being a religious zealot shouldn't disqualify her to lead America. Gibson didn't call her on it, but she advocated unilateral US intervention into Pakistan. That puts her in agreement with George Bush and Barack Obama, but with the opposite stance of John McCain. Oops.

I don't have a problem with her not answering the questions. Obama doesn't actually answer O'Reilly'stough questions. At least Obama the answers he did provide were enlightening.
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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Sep 12, 2008 02:12:22

Wow, what a lightweight. I'm not sure I would trust her to be in charge of the local PTA, let alone the most powerful nation on Earth. And to think, Charlie Gibson is the McCain campaign's most favored reporter. Imagine what a real journalist could do to her. She took a week to prepare for this interview, too.

And she should have just admitted she didn't know the Bush Doctrine, rather than trying to fake her way through it. Her first words, "In what respect, Charlie?" just cracked me up for some reason. I also gather that there are terrorists hellbent on destroying America and her allies -- just in case you miss it, I think that's her fallback thing to say about foreign policy when she's confused..

Bush Doctrine segment (2:34):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75QSExE0jU[/youtube]
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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Sep 12, 2008 02:18:31

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Postby swishnicholson » Fri Sep 12, 2008 02:56:40

Monkeyboy wrote:Wow, what a lightweight. I'm not sure I would trust her to be in charge of the local PTA, let alone the most powerful nation on Earth. And to think, Charlie Gibson is the McCain campaign's most favored reporter. Imagine what a real journalist could do to her. She took a week to prepare for this interview, too.

And she should have just admitted she didn't know the Bush Doctrine, rather than trying to fake her way through it. Her first words, "In what respect, Charlie?" just cracked me up for some reason. I also gather that there are terrorists hellbent on destroying America and her allies -- just in case you miss it, I think that's her fallback thing to say about foreign policy when she's confused..



I'm no fan, and yeah, it's the standard political move of answering the question you want to answer instead of the one in front of you, but I'm not sure what was in there that she handled so badly.
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Postby Wizlah » Fri Sep 12, 2008 06:23:56

Laexile wrote:She tried way too hard to convince America she isn't a religious zealot, although being a religious zealot shouldn't disqualify her to lead America.


Last time I heard, religious zealots and large amounts of military power didn't mix well.
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Postby CMD » Fri Sep 12, 2008 06:34:07

That was awful. If that is what she sounds like after two weeks of prep, I'm interested to see how she does in the debates.

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Postby Wizlah » Fri Sep 12, 2008 07:09:00

Wizlah wrote:Special forces (possibly US) attack taliban base in Pakistan with 20 reported killed. Pakistanis sound off:

Quote:
"This is a direct assault on the sovereignty of Pakistan, and the people of Pakistan expect that the armed forces ... would rise to defend the sovereignty of the country and give a befitting reply,"


Definitely US special forces. Bush signed a secret order. Hell of a way to show support for the new Pakistani President.

Pakistan's armed forces chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, said the army would defend the country's sovereignty "at all costs". He went on: "No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan"


(Admiral) Mullen called for a "more comprehensive strategy" embracing both sides of the border. "Until we work more closely with the Pakistani government to eliminate the safe havens from which they operate, the enemy will only keep coming," he said.


If I was the republican party right now, I would be pleading and bullying bush to back the fuck down because this is reviving a very messy situation in pakistan with a traditionally strong military against a shaky and corrupt democratic leader. It's going to keep this area a major headache for whoever comes in and won't fit easily into mccain's league of democracies world view.

I got the sense that when Rice was visiting India that there was maybe an attempt by the State Department to revise diplomatic relations with that whole region, with the war on terror taking a backseat in foreign policy. But this just sounds like business as usual. Dumb.
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Postby Trent Steele » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:19:27

VoxOrion wrote:You know, I'm sure all you cynics and "everybody is stupider than me" folks probably see it as marketing, but I think it's pretty nice that Obama and McCain went to the WTC memorial together today.


I agree.

Watched the Palin interview last night. Wow. Just wow. I mean, wow.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:21:43

Wizlah wrote:
Wizlah wrote:Special forces (possibly US) attack taliban base in Pakistan with 20 reported killed. Pakistanis sound off:

Quote:
"This is a direct assault on the sovereignty of Pakistan, and the people of Pakistan expect that the armed forces ... would rise to defend the sovereignty of the country and give a befitting reply,"


Definitely US special forces. Bush signed a secret order. Hell of a way to show support for the new Pakistani President.

Pakistan's armed forces chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, said the army would defend the country's sovereignty "at all costs". He went on: "No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan"


(Admiral) Mullen called for a "more comprehensive strategy" embracing both sides of the border. "Until we work more closely with the Pakistani government to eliminate the safe havens from which they operate, the enemy will only keep coming," he said.


If I was the republican party right now, I would be pleading and bullying bush to back the $#@! down because this is reviving a very messy situation in pakistan with a traditionally strong military against a shaky and corrupt democratic leader. It's going to keep this area a major headache for whoever comes in and won't fit easily into mccain's league of democracies world view.

I got the sense that when Rice was visiting India that there was maybe an attempt by the State Department to revise diplomatic relations with that whole region, with the war on terror taking a backseat in foreign policy. But this just sounds like business as usual. Dumb.


Pretty sure Obama, and maybe McCain are in favor of this as well.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:32:44

Trent Steele wrote:Watched the Palin interview last night. Wow. Just wow. I mean, wow.


Could have been worse. Could have been better. Could have been much better. Meh, she really needs to be good in the VP debate.

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Postby Camp Holdout » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:36:14

that abc charlie gibson interview of palin is hilarious...

it was like watching a kid in class who didn't read the book and gets called on.

the question about the bush doctrine had me on the floor. charlie knew she didnt know what it was when he asked her, she knew that he knew that she didnt know. she even tried to get him to tell her what it was before she answered with a "in what way?" response.

i am now more confident than ever that once the debates start, that obama/biden are going to cruise to the white house.

(i also apologize if these points have been made, i just woke up and havent had time to catch up on here)

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Postby Woody » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:42:06

This Palin interview is giving me complete douche chills. She's not even faking it well. It's just so bad.

I mean, few people answer all the questions in these types of things, but she just comes across as so JV. And she might as well have an index card with all her talking points in her hand.

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Postby Woody » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:43:02

I mean seriously. Any of our Republican posters on this board could have given this interview

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Postby The Dude » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:43:26

Shut up like any of you knew that you could see Russia from Alaska
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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:47:17

Woody wrote:I mean seriously. Any of our Republican posters on this board could have given this interview


Yeah, but I'd be an awesome president.

http://www.politico.com/arena/

Interesting round up of reactions, if you skip the ones from elected officials anyway.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:48:03

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Postby Wizlah » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:50:02

jerseyhoya wrote:Pretty sure Obama, and maybe McCain are in favor of this as well.


In favour of the special forces action in pakistan or taking a more diplomatic (ahem) route with the various nations kicking round there (i.e. india and pakistan)?
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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:51:45

Wizlah wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Pretty sure Obama, and maybe McCain are in favor of this as well.


In favour of the special forces action in pakistan or taking a more diplomatic (ahem) route with the various nations kicking round there (i.e. india and pakistan)?


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2182955.ece

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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Sep 12, 2008 09:58:48

jerseyhoya wrote:
Wizlah wrote:
Wizlah wrote:Special forces (possibly US) attack taliban base in Pakistan with 20 reported killed. Pakistanis sound off:

Quote:
"This is a direct assault on the sovereignty of Pakistan, and the people of Pakistan expect that the armed forces ... would rise to defend the sovereignty of the country and give a befitting reply,"


Definitely US special forces. Bush signed a secret order. Hell of a way to show support for the new Pakistani President.

Pakistan's armed forces chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, said the army would defend the country's sovereignty "at all costs". He went on: "No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan"


(Admiral) Mullen called for a "more comprehensive strategy" embracing both sides of the border. "Until we work more closely with the Pakistani government to eliminate the safe havens from which they operate, the enemy will only keep coming," he said.


If I was the republican party right now, I would be pleading and bullying bush to back the $#@! down because this is reviving a very messy situation in pakistan with a traditionally strong military against a shaky and corrupt democratic leader. It's going to keep this area a major headache for whoever comes in and won't fit easily into mccain's league of democracies world view.

I got the sense that when Rice was visiting India that there was maybe an attempt by the State Department to revise diplomatic relations with that whole region, with the war on terror taking a backseat in foreign policy. But this just sounds like business as usual. Dumb.


Pretty sure Obama, and maybe McCain are in favor of this as well.


Obama said he was in favor of this kind of action. I think this might help Obama a bit in the election. Not to go all political consultant on everybody.
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