Doubleday's Random Matter

Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Werthless » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:29:43

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... lb-wp14775

In little league, this is called a bunt triple, where the only errors were mental.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:36:06

Werthless wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Video-Brendan-Ryan-plunders-A-s-reaches-third-?urn=mlb-wp14775

In little league, this is called a bunt triple, where the only errors were mental.


Enjoyed it until I got to the Johnny Damon reference. :(
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Wheels Tupay » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:19:59

I would love to live here... if it wasnt in Michigan
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby td11 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:23:53

i love that
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby TheAAGuy » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:35:48

I was there once to see a game. About 4 years ago I would guess. Except it was called Oldsmobile Park then. The article's right. The apartments will be pretty expensive; it's already in the downtown area.
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby phorever » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:49:07

another thing i keep forgetting to post: the results of one of the tests of war i promised shore i would do.
awhile back i posted the results of testing 1st-half team war against other measures for predicting second half runs scored and allowed. the other part was collecting a list of the 57 players with at least 500 pa's each in 2011, 2012, and 2013, and comparing the consistency of their offensive and defensive war numbers to a variety of offensive stats. i did this by converting war numbers into per-pa versions for comparison with rate stats, and then using the average of 2011 and 2012 to predict 2013 for each stat and comparing the results to the actual 2013 numbers.

the reason for the choice of this group of hitters is that defensive war is known to stabilize slowly, so i needed lots of playing time. i picked the last three years since a two-year sample upon which to base predictions is about as far back as i dared go without having to worry about major career-trajectory effects.

most important results: most consistent stat was iso, with 2011-12 predicting 2013 with r-squared .634.
shore's favorites, ops and ops+, came in at .559 and .575. leaving aside positional adjustments (war stuff) i like the more wholistic stats that include baserunning. the best of these was secA, at r-squared 602. pleasing close to iso, despite including a number of not necessarily related skills, unlike the simpler skillset included in iso.

to give an idea of the range, the least consistent by far was pa, with r-squared = .095. i should have checked other infamous luck stats like rbi, but i didn't. thus, the next worst was babip at .321. hopefully, everyone here is aware of the fact that babip is known to be an actual, measurable hitter skill, i'm guessing rbi would be closer to pa than babip, maybe even worse, whereas anything better than babip could reasonably be called a useful measurement of a real skill. ba, which adds to babip the ability to avoid strikeouts is next up my list, with r-squared of .401.

both offensive bwar per pa (rsq= .415) and defensive bwar per pa (rsq= .380) beat babip. and were just above and below ba, suggesting that what the war stats are measuring is something about as consistent as the combination of babip and k-avoidance skills. thus, they are noisy measures, but seem like they should be reasonably useful.

my whole spreadsheet is available upon request (once i see the request and have time to respond).
the table of rsq is as follows:
.095 pa
.512 runs created per game
.401 ba
.321 babip
.509 obp
.572 slg
.559 ops
.575 ops+
.500 offensive winning percentage
.550 totA
.602 secA
.415 bwar-offense/pa
.380 bwar-defense/pa
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Werthless » Tue Mar 18, 2014 16:37:44

Wow, that's awesome.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby laf837 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 17:23:13

yes, very cool. impressive work
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Mar 18, 2014 18:06:49

rsq to me is just the area of a circle divided by pi. Probabilities and statistics just never clicked for me.
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Shore » Wed Mar 19, 2014 22:07:57

Thanks, phorever. Cool stuff.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Mar 19, 2014 23:21:44

Salvador Perez hit a liner right into Chapmans face. Not good. He's hurt badly.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Barry Jive » Wed Mar 19, 2014 23:24:02

they just called the game. jesus h.
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Barry Jive » Thu Mar 20, 2014 00:00:59

laceration and contusion above his left eye, never lost consciousness
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Werthless » Thu Mar 20, 2014 09:49:47

Barry Jive wrote:they just called the game. jesus h.

First ever game called due to sadness?

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Napalm » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:14:23

that chapman video is scary

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:43:57

Napalm wrote:that chapman video is scary

No kidding. Just watched it a few minutes ago. My stomach is in knots. For some reason, him kicking his legs was worse than if he'd just been motionless. I'm glad that I already knew he wasn't dead when I watched it... can't even imagine that live.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby cartersDad26 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 14:41:45

Lip reading Managers being ejected. The Chollie one is funny.

http://deadspin.com/a-lip-reader-deciph ... socialflow

**NOTE: Manuel is the hardest manager for me to lip-read, so there's a lot of missed stuff here. Not sorry he's not around anymore!**

Vic Carapazza: Hold on.

Charlie Manuel: Come on, the fuck you calling him out?

(OBSCURED)

CM: (around 0:29)—go ask him?

CM: (OBSCURED)

VC: Yes!

(Walks over to Gary Cederstrom.)

(Cederstrom ejects Manuel.)

CM: …fucking terrible. (OBSCURED) fucking that high!

(Honestly, the only thing I can catch that Manuel says throughout here is "Goddamn" and "Fuck".)

CM: (1:08) Goddamn it!

CM: (1:18) We're trying to win a fucking game, Gary. You're getting on our godddamn case here, again (? not sure on again). What the fuck (OBSCURED). —Fucking matter?

GC: I'm sure it does.

CM: Goddamn right. You gotta be shitting me. You fucked me in the ass. That's not (OBSCURED) fucking horseshit.

VC: That's it! (Ejection) Get outta here, Jimmy! You're gone.

Chase Utley: You're a piece of—(stops, smirks). What? What'd he do? Did he say something?

(OBSCURED)

Jimmy Rollins: For what?

CM: (OBSCURED) Fucking horseshit! (OBSCURED)

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Barry Jive » Mon Mar 24, 2014 20:44:17

missin u Cholly
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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