Doubleday's Random Matter

by **Bill McNeal** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 18:59:52

Glad they are outlawing them, there's just no reason for it and you are shortening guys careers. I mean all that shit adds up you know. Soto was injured on this collision and chase went knee on knee with him and had no padding. That's just not good for the game.

by **philliesphhan** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 19:06:47

I love Chase but he can be kinda dirty when it comes to these plays. I'm still surprised he gets away with putting his knee in front of second base, of all places, to block a runner.

by **joe table** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 05:53:37

moar greg maddux random facts

Despite a middling minor league strikeout rate, he climbed the ladder quickly and debuted in the majors on Sept. 2, 1986, three months after his brother. In an epic game against the Astros that was started by Houston’s Nolan Ryan and Chicago’s Jamie Moyer — two pitchers whose careers combined to span an epoch from 1966 to 2012 — Maddux entered in the 17th inning as a pinch-runner for catcher Jody Davis and was the losing pitcher after surrendering a solo homer to Billy Hatcher in the 18th.

jayson stark mad as fkk not to drop this nugget

by **pacino** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 09:09:45

Bill McNeal wrote:
Glad they are outlawing them, there's just no reason for it and you are shortening guys careers. I mean all that #$!&@ adds up you know. Soto was injured on this collision and chase went knee on knee with him and had no padding. That's just not good for the game.

it really is such a small part of the game that really only has an 'exciting' moment for a second but long-term consequences for the players. good call on the MLB

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 09:26:11

The question that occurs to me is: If we have a consensus as a society that the injury risk of an occasional home plate collision is too great, how can we condone that risk on every play in the NFL (not to mention boxing)?

by **pacino** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 09:41:47

you're not wrong

by **phatj** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 13:03:45

JFLNYC wrote:The question that occurs to me is: If we have a consensus as a society that the injury risk of an occasional home plate collision is too great, how can we condone that risk on every play in the NFL (not to mention boxing)?

Who said anything about a consensus as a society?

by **Soren** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 13:06:18

philliesphhan wrote:I love Chase but he can be kinda dirty when it comes to these plays. I'm still surprised he gets away with putting his knee in front of second base, of all places, to block a runner.

Chase is dirty as shit, part of his charm.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 13:14:59

phatj wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:The question that occurs to me is: If we have a consensus as a society that the injury risk of an occasional home plate collision is too great, how can we condone that risk on every play in the NFL (not to mention boxing)?

Who said anything about a consensus as a society?

Well, first of all, I said, "If." You don't think we do? What about a society of interested parties? Of sports fans? Of BSG?

Rather than parsing words, how about: "If it's a good idea to ban the occasional home plate collisions, why is it a good idea to allow them on every play in the NFL?"

by **Bill McNeal** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 13:22:27

That's oversimplifying it jf, football is dangerous, but that is an entirely different conversation than this. I'm glad they got rid of the home plate collisions, not from a player safety/well being perspective, I'm glad they did it from an enjoyment perspective. I don't wanna see Utley ramming his already injured, non padded knee into the catchers equipment. I don't wanna see Chooch break his leg blocking home plate. I realize the same stuff happens every football game, but, again from an enjoyment perspective, is it more entertaining to watch two hand touch or tackle football?

I don't know what the answer is regarding football, they do have to do something, because guys are allegedly dying from head injuries sustained playing football. Baseballs decision was a different/easier one.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 14:00:49

You're right, Bill. I guess I'm just being an instigator. It just occurred to me that, if there were an alien race looking down on us and they saw we banned home plate collisions but allowed football and boxing, it might seem incongruous.

by **phatj** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 16:36:20

I would have no problem if boxing and MMA were to disappear. I wouldn't ban them, but I fail to see the appeal of a sport whose only purpose is to beat up your opponent more than he beats you up.

Baseball is fundamentally not a contact sport. In fact, if memory serves, the home plate collision was already technically against the rules, the MLB PTB just decided to enforce them. I think this is good for player safety, but at a more basic level, it gets rid of a play that doesn't belong in the game in the first place.

Football is somewhere in between - the object is not to beat up your opponent, but to advance the ball against his physical opposition, so there's intrinsic violence. I don't have a problem with this at a conceptual level. But I would prefer to slant the rules to promote player safety wherever possible while still retaining the flavor of the game.

by **BigEd76** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 18:09:42

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by **Bill McNeal** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 18:15:33

Well of course dikeman would like her!

by **Grotewold** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 19:23:15

Bill McNeal wrote:Well of course dikeman would like her!

by **swishnicholson** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 18:25:17

pacino wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:
Glad they are outlawing them, there's just no reason for it and you are shortening guys careers. I mean all that #$!&@ adds up you know. Soto was injured on this collision and chase went knee on knee with him and had no padding. That's just not good for the game.

it really is such a small part of the game that really only has an 'exciting' moment for a second but long-term consequences for the players. good call on the MLB

Agreed. It's never been really legal anyway, so I guess the new rule will largely spell out the review process and punishments.

by **swishnicholson** » Thu Dec 19, 2013 18:26:21

Though I admit I like watching that gif over and over.

by **swishnicholson** » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:12:40

Dick Allen and the Team that Saved the White Sox

The Yankees led 4-2 in the bottom of the ninth. Bill Melton worked a one-out walk and Mike Andrews singled to left, prompting New York manager Ralph Houk to bring in southpaw reliever Sparky Lyle.

Tanner responded by sending a batboy to the clubhouse to summon his slugger.

“I was eating a chili dog when I heard Chuck wanted me to hit,” Allen remembered. “I had chili all over my shirt so I put on a new one and a pair of pants with no underclothes.”

As Allen hefted his bat – at 40 ounces it weighed a half-pound more than those used by other sluggers his size in the early 1970s – Tanner sent Jorge Orta in to pinch-run for Andrews. When Allen was announced as a pinch-hitter, Andrews, who had been Lyle’s roommate on the Red Sox, shouted at Lyle, “Sparky, you’re in deep (crap) now!”

Allen strode to the plate, took a strike and then a ball. The next pitch is one he’ll remember the rest of his life.

“Sparky Lyle threw me a slider,” he said, “and it wound up in the seats.”

by **Wheels Tupay** » Fri Jan 03, 2014 16:36:15

The Detroit Single A affiliate's stadium is on fire.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Fri Jan 03, 2014 17:05:42

swishnicholson wrote:Dick Allen and the Team that Saved the White Sox

The Yankees led 4-2 in the bottom of the ninth. Bill Melton worked a one-out walk and Mike Andrews singled to left, prompting New York manager Ralph Houk to bring in southpaw reliever Sparky Lyle.

Tanner responded by sending a batboy to the clubhouse to summon his slugger.

“I was eating a chili dog when I heard Chuck wanted me to hit,” Allen remembered. “I had chili all over my shirt so I put on a new one and a pair of pants with no underclothes.”

As Allen hefted his bat – at 40 ounces it weighed a half-pound more than those used by other sluggers his size in the early 1970s – Tanner sent Jorge Orta in to pinch-run for Andrews. When Allen was announced as a pinch-hitter, Andrews, who had been Lyle’s roommate on the Red Sox, shouted at Lyle, “Sparky, you’re in deep (crap) now!”

Allen strode to the plate, took a strike and then a ball. The next pitch is one he’ll remember the rest of his life.

“Sparky Lyle threw me a slider,” he said, “and it wound up in the seats.”

Comiskey used to have astroturf in the infield but in grass in the outfield?

Weird.

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