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Postby Barry Jive » Sat Apr 07, 2012 15:15:33

I don't really know what the stats say, I was actually going by eye test. Seemed like he robbed the Phils of a hit every time he played against them as a Natinal
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Eem » Sat Apr 07, 2012 15:16:29

And yeah small sample whatnot but I thought Wigginton played a solid 1B on Thurs
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby smitty » Sat Apr 07, 2012 15:24:45

Monkeyboy wrote:
smitty wrote:Bill James is doing a starting pitcher power ranking thing based on some formula he came up with. It's probably good one. He has Verlander #1 but Doc is a very close 2nd. Cliff Lee is 3rd and Hamels is 5th. (Kershaw is 4th).

Worley is # 110, Blanton 121 and Kendrick 123.

Phillies are pretty far in front as best starting staff.

As the season goes on the rankings will change. Knowing James, the updates will be sporadic.



so that makes Kendrick a low #4.


He uses adjusted game scores to make his rankings. He tries to adjust for park effects, inactivity and post season play.

Everybody starts out with a ranking of 300.000, and you can’t go lower than 300, even if you pitch badly. If you’re at 300, you’re unranked; you’re only actually on the list if you have a current score higher than 300. There would typically be 150 to 180 pitchers who are, at the moment, ranked. Pitchers never actually pitch badly enough that they would rank below 300 (if it were possible to do so) for more than two or three starts, because if you pitch that badly, you lose your position in the rotation.

When a pitcher makes a start, we:

a) Mark down his previous ranking by 3%, and

b) Add 30% of his Game Score for the start.

We base the rankings on Game Scores, which means that we ignore wins and losses, but give weight to innings pitched, runs allowed, earned runs allowed, walks and strikeouts.


I'm not sure what the rankings of guys like Kendrick mean other than maybe he's good enough to be a starter in the big leagues, but that's about it. Kendrick has a score of 350 (compared to Halladay at 562; Lee 550 and Hamels 530):

b) We’re not really that focused on the down-list rankings. We’re MAINLY concerned, frankly, with making sure we’ve got the top 10, top 15 guys in a reasonable order; whether the guy who ranks 117th is better than the guy who ranks 154th isn’t so much a priority. And those rankings will change very quickly anyway. If Strasburg stays healthy and pitches well, he’ll rocket past Rodrigo Lopez in a month.
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Barry Jive » Sat Apr 07, 2012 15:27:07

Eem wrote:Nix at 1B, everything else the same

And yeah, LOL LAYNCE NIX TWO YEARS WTF, but by wRC+ he's been an above-average offensive player against righties the last three seasons, when he first started to get semi-regular PT


his OBP is pretty weak against them but he puts up good power numbers. hoping for something like 1 for 4 with a double
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby smitty » Sat Apr 07, 2012 15:32:02

Eem wrote:And yeah small sample whatnot but I thought Wigginton played a solid 1B on Thurs


Wigginton looks like a stubby guy who works at Midas Muffler or something but he's a good enough infielder to at least stand in the vicinity of 2B or 3B in actual games. He should be a decent 1Bman based on that I suppose.
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Sat Apr 07, 2012 18:21:10

David Murphy wrote:Just walked past a broadcast booth and saw Phils PBP man Tom McCarthy applying make-up to @JSalisburyCSN. Couldn't get camera out in time
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby stevelxa476 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:23:38

I had a dream last night that we traded Dom Brown for Nolan Reimold. Take it for what it's worth.
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:34:56

Pierre
Vic
Rollins
Pence
Thome
Wigginton
Galvis
Schneider
Worley

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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby 1 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:39:13

It all begins today. Again.

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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby LongDrive » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:47:32

Galvis batting 7th, we got this!

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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby kruker » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:50:36

Go big or go home.
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Youseff » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:53:05

ReadingPhilly wrote:Pierre
Vic
Rollins
Pence
Thome
Wigginton
Galvis
Schneider
Worley


:cry:
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby CalvinBall » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:40:23

I know that lineup looks bad but they are going to go out and score two runs. Just you watch.

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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby bleh » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:49:16

Youseff wrote:
ReadingPhilly wrote:Pierre
Vic
Rollins
Pence
Thome
Wigginton
Galvis
Schneider
Worley


:cry:

Worley's personal infield

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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby SK790 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:16:36

ReadingPhilly wrote:Pierre
Vic
Rollins
Pence
Thome
Wigginton
Galvis
Schneider
Worley

just threw up in my mouth.
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby uncle milt » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:41:13

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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby stevelxa476 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 13:10:28

I was hoping Charlie would save Thome's start for tomorrow.
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby stevelxa476 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:24:56

Not sure if anyone already talked about it, but anyone want to venture a guess as to the last time the Phils were below .500?
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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Bucky » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:26:35

i believe we lost the opener in 2009

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Re: Google+: Phillies Random Thoughts

Postby Soren » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:29:03

Bucky wrote:i believe we lost the opener in 2009


yea. Jordan Schaefer hit a HR and then had a sub .600 OPS
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