New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:45:59

Squire wrote:What sort of defensive capabilities does Japan have? It is kinda amazing that North Korea is firing missiles over the country and Japan is basically doing nothing in response.


I think it is more that if they flinch, then next launch might take the short trip to Japan. Given that they have experience being attacked with nuclear weapons, they do not want to open that avenue. Beyond that, their defense structure is pretty unusual as their position has really base on their past aggression steering they away from anything that would seem like a return to imperialism. $46B goes into the Japan Self-Defense Forces with a total size of 300K (1/6 of which is a reserve force).

For comparison, the US force size is about 5 times larger on active duty, with ~600K additional reservists available and the IRR beyond that (I think).

@slugsrbad post points out the the Japanese love helicopters. It is like 1:1 winged:rotor. Their force projection is chopper carriers. Really, it points to the defensive reality of its forces.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby td11 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 13:08:04

jerseyhoya wrote:Way to go Harvard recognizing you shouldn't feature traitors to the country. Not totally sure how any of this came aboot though.

Chelsea manning is more of a patriot than any of your conservative idols could ever hope to be
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 14:45:47

A lot of squawking about Trump approval numbers up...

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Those number are not good. The pollster says his base is back (calls them NASCAR voters), and that he is up with the key demographics of younger and black voters. Not sure I a buying it
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Slowhand » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:05:44

I hope that kid who mowed the White House lawn isn't expecting Trump to pay him anything.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:11:05

What kind of idiot would put approval rating numbers on a pie chart? A Zogby kind of idiot. Not even RCP includes Zogby in their polling averages.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:29:22

538 has him at 38.5%, an aggregation of every poll with their biases factored in. they were pretty spot on with the election as far as popularity.

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:31:39

There was some guy on CNN talking about the ESPN Jemele Hill controversy of not terminating her, and the monkey said that he only believes in 2 things, the first amendment & boobs. I wish I could have seen who it was, because it went down hill extremely fast, ending with the segment getting tossed.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:34:28

A news story starting to bubble is the first receipt for a Mar-a-lago stay was found in a response to a FOIA request. Of course the receipt shows $1,092 for two nights, or a per-night price of $546, which, according to the bill, was Mar-a-Lago’s “rack rate,” the hotel industry term for a standard, non-discounted price. This sort of takes the emoluments clause to a whole new level. If you are not familiar, there is a government rate that is insisted on most of the time for Government business, and staying over rate causes all kinds of paperwork hell to prove it was essential to stay at an above per diem rate.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:38:51

Slowhand wrote:I hope that kid who mowed the White House lawn isn't expecting Trump to pay him anything.


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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby ReadingPhilly » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:40:00

doing a poor job on that pass.

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:41:15

survey of American Jewish opinion

Just 21% of the sample has a favorable opinion of the job President Trump has been doing, while 77% has an unfavorable view. The president does only slightly better on questions about how he is handling specific policy areas, but disapproval still outpaces approval by roughly a three-to-one ratio:

Immigration—23% approve and 76% disapprove
Iran nuclear issue—26% approve and 67% disapprove
National Security—27% approve and 73% disapprove
NATO and the Transatlantic Alliance—25% approve and 72% disapprove
Race Relations—21% approve and 78% disapprove
Terrorism—30% approve and 69% disapprove
U.S.-Russia Relations—23% approve and 75% disapprove

On President Trump’s performance to date, 71% of Orthodox respondents, 25% of Conservative, 11% of Reform, 8% of Reconstructionist, and 17% of Just Jewish view it favorably, while 27% of Orthodox, 73% of Conservative, 88% of Reform, 92% of Reconstructionist, and 81% of Just Jewish view his performance unfavorably.

President Trump does best on the question about how he is handling U.S.-Israel relations, though even here the “disapprove” responses lead “approve” by 54% to 41%. In 2015, when the survey asked the same question about President Obama, responses were evenly divided, 49%-49%.

On U.S.-Israel relations, the denominational breakdown of those approving President Trump’s performance is 78% of Orthodox, 50% of Conservative, 31% of Reform, 8% of Reconstructionist, and 37% of Just Jewish. Disapproving are 22% of Orthodox, 46% of Conservative, 62% of Reform, 84% of Reconstructionist, and 56% of Just Jewish.

On the peace process, 55% favor the establishment of a Palestinian state and 40% oppose it. In the 2015 AJC survey, the last time this question was asked, 52 percent favored it and 46 percent opposed.

14. Regarding a possible move of the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which of the following courses of action do you most support?
Move the Embassy to Jerusalem immediately 16
Move the Embassy to Jerusalem at a later date in conjunction with progress in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks 36
Not move the embassy 44
Not sure 4

72% of American Jews are Reform, 'Just Jewish', or Reconstruction. Somehow only orthodox Jewish opinions get heard regarding our relationship with Israel, though.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:45:45

what is this? who is this kid? is that his son? i thought the kid was taller
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:49:27

pacino wrote:what is this? who is this kid? is that his son? i thought the kid was taller


The kid whose dream it was to mow the White House lawn. :lol:

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Slowhand » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:50:37

pacino wrote:what is this? who is this kid? is that his son? i thought the kid was taller


Just a kid. He wrote Trump telling him he admired him because he’s a successful business man and he (the kid) is a business man as well mowing lawns. Said he’d like to mow the White House lawn, so Trump invited him to do it.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:52:11

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Fri Sep 15, 2017 15:58:50

Slowhand wrote:
pacino wrote:what is this? who is this kid? is that his son? i thought the kid was taller


Just a kid. He wrote Trump telling him he admired him because he’s a successful business man and he (the kid) is a business man as well mowing lawns. Said he’d like to mow the White House lawn, so Trump invited him to do it.

That's a cool thing for them to think of
Kid's terrible at keeping it straight, tho.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Fri Sep 15, 2017 17:35:40

Buncha snowflakes.
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