James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby pacino » Sun May 21, 2017 12:28:00

state lawmakers love big government when they're the ones doing it
trying to pass bills in Minnesota and Missouri to invalidate municipal minimum wage hikes. NY Times editorial board with a rare good editorial:

Gov. Eric Greitens of Missouri, a Republican, must decide whether to approve or veto a bill to nullify an $11-an-hour minimum wage enacted in St. Louis and bar other cities and counties from enacting minimum wages. In Minnesota, the Democratic governor, Mark Dayton, has vowed to veto a measure that would invalidate ordinances in Minneapolis and St. Paul mandating paid sick days and that also would forbid cities and counties from passing other local labor laws. The pre-emptive provision is aimed at Minneapolis, where most city leaders want a $15 minimum wage.

In both states, lawmakers who are fighting to keep wages low, benefits measly and localities subservient to the states are doing the bidding of their corporate backers.

When states have been slow to enact increases, cities and counties have taken the initiative. Some 40 localities have minimums above their state’s level.

Republicans say they believe in local control, but preventing local wage increases contradicts that. And experience shows there are benefits from lifting local minimums, not only in higher wages, but in higher spending as well.

By vetoing the bills in play, the governors in Missouri and Minnesota would be leading their Republican legislatures where they need to go. If they don’t veto the bills, voters will be back, driven by necessity to demand and win higher minimums and other labor protections.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Sun May 21, 2017 13:49:31

Tillerson holds Riyadh presser, no US press invited (were they barred? not clear)

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby 1 » Sun May 21, 2017 14:19:59

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sun May 21, 2017 16:52:18

It was really entertaining watching chris ruddy trying to defend trump this morning with George Stephanopolus. At this point it looks like the republican base is going to go all in on the media conspiracy theories and that trump is a victim. Ruddy stating there is no evidence of trump wrongdoing and too much fake news. Trump opened up Chinese markets to us businesses in 3 months while other presidents have been trying 30 years! How come nobody is reporting this?! The press is driving a negative narrative with this Russia stuff!
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby PSUsarge » Sun May 21, 2017 19:19:11

I am not really a Trump fan but...is the idea that Pence is less of an outward jackass (and thus less of a risk) compared to Trump? I feel like the fervor to incriminate (and later impeach) Trump has overtaken any other goal or desired outcome, but would people be happy with Pence? Or just happy that he isn't Trump?

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Bucky » Sun May 21, 2017 19:42:33

PSUsarge wrote:I am not really a Trump fan but...is the idea that Pence is less of an outward jackass (and thus less of a risk) compared to Trump? I feel like the fervor to incriminate (and later impeach) Trump has overtaken any other goal or desired outcome, but would people be happy with Pence? Or just happy that he isn't Trump?


Werthless had a great take on this in the prior threat.

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby PSUsarge » Sun May 21, 2017 20:04:07

Thanks for (re)posting, I hadn't seen that last week.

As a follow up to my question and to that - isn't Pence arguably more of a problem for Dems than Trump given the assumption that the GOP would likely unify (more) behind Pence and further their agenda?

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby pacino » Sun May 21, 2017 20:10:09

I mean I guess theoretically so but I see a lot of stuff I already disagree with is already being passed. We would just have less of an embarrassment on the international stage.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Soren » Sun May 21, 2017 20:54:39

As someone with a lot of LGBT family and friends I hope Pence gets the boot with Trump. Fuck him.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Sun May 21, 2017 21:03:57

PSUsarge wrote:Thanks for (re)posting, I hadn't seen that last week.

As a follow up to my question and to that - isn't Pence arguably more of a problem for Dems than Trump given the assumption that the GOP would likely unify (more) behind Pence and further their agenda?


We can beat Pence through normal politics, Trump is insane and while he might not get much done legislatively due to his divisiveness he harms norms and our institutions everyday. Pence wouldn't have fired Comey,
he wouldn't have shared intel w/ the Russians, etc.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Sun May 21, 2017 21:33:06

drumpf is a wretch who diminishes our country with every breath he's ever taken. Shouldn't have ever been born.

Pence is damaged goods & Rs probably have plenty of their own reasons for steering clear of him taking the helm, among them that his assertions that he's been in the dark on drumpf's obstructions & drumpf's weird coziness with Flynn are ridiculous. My feeling is Pence's murky situation is part of the reason Rs have been so hesitant to pull the plug on the shitgob in the White House.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun May 21, 2017 21:56:31

Even starting from the premise that the conservative media and FNC are rotten to the core, Hannity still going on this Rich story is bad. Am surprised (I don't know why I'm surprised by anything anymore) that no one at Fox can or cares to tell him to stop bothering grieving parents with lunatic conspiracy theories.

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Woody » Sun May 21, 2017 22:58:41

Trump is an existential threat to our entire country. Pence, not so much

But why are we talking about Pence when he was warned about Flynn in advance, then again multiple times afterwards, and didn't do anything about it until the Washington Post forced his hand. Isn't he, you know, just as complicit
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Sun May 21, 2017 23:23:28

Someone leaked that he didn't know, so I guess that's his defense.

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Mon May 22, 2017 00:01:06

Woody wrote:Trump is an existential threat to our entire country. Pence, not so much

But why are we talking about Pence when he was warned about Flynn in advance, then again multiple times afterwards, and didn't do anything about it until the Washington Post forced his hand. Isn't he, you know, just as complicit


From here it's just a skip & a jump to my previous post
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby etched Chaos » Mon May 22, 2017 01:36:54

CalvinBall wrote:Someone leaked that he didn't know, so I guess that's his defense.


Pence's PA is the leaker...
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Mon May 22, 2017 06:39:25

Hannity has not stopped pushing the Seth Rice conspiracy. Awful. He needs to be fired.

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon May 22, 2017 07:21:11

Dump press sit down with Israel, in the brief words shared, blows his horn that his trip to Saudi Arabia make this comment, "its been said that there has been nothing like that ever before".

I saw that they projected Donald's face on his hotel, so obviously the Saudi's read the story about keeping Trump engaged.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby pacino » Mon May 22, 2017 07:53:47

the 2018 budget proposal is pretty bad
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Mon May 22, 2017 08:04:56

drumpf riffing in Jerusalem. What an appalling dope
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