Lou Barletta Is The Joe Morgan of Politics

Lou Barletta Is The Joe Morgan of Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:16:31

Lou defends his ordinance:
But Barletta admitted he had no idea how many illegal immigrants live in his city of about 32,000 and that he didn’t rely on any data to conclude they are the root of its problems.

The ordinance, remodeled several times and barred from enactment pending the outcome of the court case, includes assertions that illegal immigration has contributed to overcrowding in schools and hospitals and ”destroys the overall quality of life.”

But Barletta admitted he did not contact the school district to ask about alleged overcrowding, call the hospital for statistics on the treatment of illegal immigrants or seek any data to back up any of the claims. Instead, Barletta said he assumed schools were overcrowded because classes were being held in trailers, and he read in the local newspaper that test scores had fallen.

Barletta also said he relied on conversations with hospital personnel to determine that ”uninsured people” were trying to use the emergency room, and he got phone calls from residents telling him that emergency room waiting time was up to six hours.

”So you had no data on hospital treatments or other health care?” asked Walczak, legal director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania.

”No,” Barletta said.

He had no data on any other city services, from sanitation to fire calls, that could prove his contention that illegal immigrants were draining city services and the budget, Barletta said. But he claimed he didn’t need statistics to point out what was obvious to him and other longtime Hazleton residents

Outside court, Walczak said the statistics revealed that crime in Hazleton has not increased out of proportion to the rise in population, and that illegal immigrants were not committing a lot of crimes. Walczak said the city identified only 20 to 30 serious crimes that involved illegal immigrants out of more than 8,000 crimes.

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Postby karn » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:18:51

Great article. I've been interested in hearing any proof for the absurd claims he makes and have heard none. Obviously it's because he hasn't any. Lou Barletta can go to hell when he dies.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:28:59

karn wrote:Great article. I've been interested in hearing any proof for the absurd claims he makes and have heard none. Obviously it's because he hasn't any. Lou Barletta can go to hell when he dies.


Look calculator freaks, I know it's a problem because I see it. And they don't have grit or hustle, and your fancy pants computers can't prove anything.
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Postby Woody » Thu Mar 15, 2007 13:35:10

"uninsured people":illegals::space cadet:latino pitcher

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Postby Bakestar » Thu Mar 15, 2007 14:22:40

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Re: Lou Barletta Is The Joe Morgan of Politics

Postby drsmooth » Thu Mar 15, 2007 16:08:43

pacino wrote:
Barletta also said he relied on conversations with hospital personnel to determine that ”uninsured people” were trying to use the emergency room, and he got phone calls from residents telling him that emergency room waiting time was up to six hours.

”So you had no data on hospital treatments or other health care?” asked Walczak, legal director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania.

”No,” Barletta said.



Barletta is apparently as reliant as many clinicians on facts to drive his actions.

And he's being more candid about his underuse of them than most clinicians are.

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Re: Lou Barletta Is The Joe Morgan of Politics

Postby Bucky » Thu Mar 15, 2007 17:11:21

drsmooth wrote:
pacino wrote:
Barletta also said he relied on conversations with hospital personnel to determine that ”uninsured people” were trying to use the emergency room, and he got phone calls from residents telling him that emergency room waiting time was up to six hours.

”So you had no data on hospital treatments or other health care?” asked Walczak, legal director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania.

”No,” Barletta said.



Barletta is apparently as reliant as many clinicians on facts to drive his actions.

And he's being more candid about his underuse of them than most clinicians are.


Do you have data to support those accusations???

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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Mar 16, 2007 04:41:30

Lost in all the hoopla... IIRC (from what I've read), part of this "illegal immigration" ordinance was a landlord tenant ordinance which established that all landlords pay an annual fee for each rental unit and each tenant pay a fee to obtain an "occupant permit". I just get the feeling that this is all just one of those good old-fashioned PA municipality "revenue generators" wrapped in the guise of a recent hot button issue (illegal immigration).

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Re: Lou Barletta Is The Joe Morgan of Politics

Postby Disco Stu » Fri Mar 16, 2007 06:07:23

pacino wrote:Lou defends his ordinance:
But Barletta admitted he had no idea how many illegal immigrants live in his city of about 32,000 and that he didn’t rely on any data to conclude they are the root of its problems.

The ordinance, remodeled several times and barred from enactment pending the outcome of the court case, includes assertions that illegal immigration has contributed to overcrowding in schools and hospitals and ”destroys the overall quality of life.”

But Barletta admitted he did not contact the school district to ask about alleged overcrowding, call the hospital for statistics on the treatment of illegal immigrants or seek any data to back up any of the claims. Instead, Barletta said he assumed schools were overcrowded because classes were being held in trailers, and he read in the local newspaper that test scores had fallen.

Barletta also said he relied on conversations with hospital personnel to determine that ”uninsured people” were trying to use the emergency room, and he got phone calls from residents telling him that emergency room waiting time was up to six hours.

”So you had no data on hospital treatments or other health care?” asked Walczak, legal director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania.

”No,” Barletta said.

He had no data on any other city services, from sanitation to fire calls, that could prove his contention that illegal immigrants were draining city services and the budget, Barletta said. But he claimed he didn’t need statistics to point out what was obvious to him and other longtime Hazleton residents

Outside court, Walczak said the statistics revealed that crime in Hazleton has not increased out of proportion to the rise in population, and that illegal immigrants were not committing a lot of crimes. Walczak said the city identified only 20 to 30 serious crimes that involved illegal immigrants out of more than 8,000 crimes.

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This is kinda like saying he is the best politician ever who has no idea why.
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Re: Lou Barletta Is The Joe Morgan of Politics

Postby drsmooth » Fri Mar 16, 2007 07:17:06

Bucky wrote:Do you have data to support those accusations???


yes.

what?

EDIT: Bucky - the difficulty is in knowing where to begin - but the Dartmouth Atlas of Health Care may be as good as anyplace.

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Postby pacino » Fri Mar 16, 2007 09:04:04

Most of the immigrants likely aren't illegal...but Lou hasn't bothered to do the research to even check.

That's why I'm on the guy's case.
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Postby Stripes » Sat Mar 17, 2007 01:34:20

Uncle Milty wrote:If they're illegals who cares?


EXACTLY!!! They're breaking the LAW by being here ILLEGALLY! Why is that so hard to "comprende"?
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Postby Disco Stu » Sat Mar 17, 2007 03:24:06

Stripes wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:If they're illegals who cares?


EXACTLY!!! They're breaking the LAW by being here ILLEGALLY! Why is that so hard to "comprende"?


I really want to believe that this is just kidding like abreu being Mexican is kidding.
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Postby pacino » Tue Nov 04, 2008 19:52:42

this man is going to be elected to congress folks
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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Nov 04, 2008 19:54:16

pacino wrote:this man is going to be elected to congress folks


Cue banjo music?
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 04, 2008 19:57:21

He's running against a corrupt, scumbag asshole.

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Postby pacino » Tue Nov 04, 2008 19:58:30

and barletta's entire rise has been based on not-so-thinly veiled racism. i'd vote for the other guy no matter who it was
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Postby VoxOrion » Tue Nov 04, 2008 21:43:22

I'm in an immigration class right now and we've talked about this a lot. Basically the "academics" see Barletta's success as nothing more than what happens (and has happened historically) when there is no federal leadership on the immigration issue.
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Postby kruker » Tue Nov 04, 2008 22:15:32

5% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Paul Kanjorski (D / Inc.) 5,347 58%
Lou Barletta (R) 3,819 42%
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Postby pacino » Tue Nov 04, 2008 22:16:05

hazelton vote likely not in yet, too busy worrying about people with accents stealing their jobs they had 20 years ago to count all their ballots in a timely manner.
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