VoxOrion wrote:There, I posted.

Happy.

BigEd76 wrote:Bringing this over from the other topic because it may have been true

BigEd76 wrote:Here's a thought: what if the Phils' offer was always $326M-$350M to beat both overall and AAV, the Boras crew shopped around and couldn't get anything close to that, so false info was floated out there that the Phils' offer was only $270M-$300M, then the Boras crew takes the original offer and says "the Phils stepped up and showed how much they wanted this player", when all along nothing changed?

Shore wrote:Thank god this got done today. Have a funeral tomorrow, and it would have been an awkward place for a fist pump and a FUCK YEAH scream.

Bossss wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:Bringing this over from the other topic because it may have been true

BigEd76 wrote:Here's a thought: what if the Phils' offer was always $326M-$350M to beat both overall and AAV, the Boras crew shopped around and couldn't get anything close to that, so false info was floated out there that the Phils' offer was only $270M-$300M, then the Boras crew takes the original offer and says "the Phils stepped up and showed how much they wanted this player", when all along nothing changed?

Mad props to you on this one. It probably is exactly what happened. I was thinking about this right when it broke too.

cartersDad26 wrote:this is gonna be a fun season....can we add another rotation arm?

VoxOrion wrote:There, I posted.

Happy.

Grotewold wrote:Best of all I can delete today's Hittin' Season

Bossss wrote:Guys let's not lose faith so quickly. If the Phils chances were actually remote don't you think they would be leaking the huge offer they made and not telling reporters it's a remote chance. Take a breath, read the facts below and see if you agree with me that this is Boras just showing he is a master at his craft. Remember most of these reporters are hearing stuff from people who have an agenda. Here are the Facts:

The Dodgers and Giants didn't jump to the forefront until after the Nats, Whitesox, and Cubs all said they were out on Harper.

The Dodgers have told shareholders in a written document they will not exceed the Salary Cap until 2022 (the could potential be held legally liable)

2 years ago MLB mandated the Dodgers get in compliance with the leagues debt service rules after the 5 year grace period for new ownership. The rule states that debt can't be more than 12 times the annual revenue of the club. Would they have room to add a 300 million + contract after just getting in compliance?

Guggenheim Partners, overseen by billionaire Mark Walter, is facing a lawsuit filed in 2018 claiming it defrauded annuity investors by saddling an insurance affiliate with risky assets, and siphoning cash for purposes including Walter’s purchase of the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team. It is alleged the scheme included how Guggenheim, Walter, then-Guggenheim president Todd Boehly and Texas oil tycoon Robert “Bobby” Patton Jr used the insurers as a “cash machine” to fund the $2.15 billion Dodgers purchase in 2012. This sum included $1.2 billion “financed by policyholder and annuity holder money,”

In April of 2018, Guggenheim Partners confirmed it is cooperating with an investigation of its asset management subsidiary that is being conducted by U.S Securities and Exchange Commission.

The dodgers dumped Wood and Puig in a deal that was seen as a salary dump.

The Dodger's didn't make a late push for Machado after it became clear that Arenado was resigning with the Rockies.

Harper's 6/1 odds of being the MVP are based on the Phillies being the favorite destination according to the Superbook at the Westgate (real Vegas not some small offshore book).

My take: When you read between the lines I think Boras is just trying to scare the Phillies into making a massive offer by making the Dodgers seem like a viable threat (and doing a great job at it). They are stringing the Dodgers along letting them think Harper would consider a shorter deal with them but waiting for Middleton to blink and give in to their demands. I can't fathom a scenario where Boras & Harper take less than Machado received after drawing this out for this long. There has literally never been a player who took significantly less money to sign with a team even close to this late into the process . Along with that I don't see how the Dodgers (with all their issues) could suddenly jump in and make the huge offer it would take to land Harper four months in. The Arenado signing shouldn't move the needle that much. If the Phils signed Machado and Harper had no one offering a mega deal that would be a different story.

One last thing I wanted to add is Boras and Harper may not be on the same page and this could all be Boras trying to save face after not delivering on what he promised Harper contract or destination wise. Ultimately he signs with the Phillies but Boras can tell Harper that he exausted every possible option.

swishnicholson wrote:

VoxOrion wrote:There, I posted.

Happy.

Yes.

And all it took was $330 million dollars.

ShiverMeTimbers wrote:Ahoy me hearties!

Th' bunghole landed on me poopdeck

Carouser, me